Werewolves and RL equivalents (was:Re: Snape - a werewolf bigot?...)

[lanval1015]

No: HPFGUIDX 170408

> > Lanval:
> <HUGE SNIP>
> 
> > Just IMO, of course. I freely confess to my Lupin bias, just as 
> > others who have argued this question clearly seem to have a 
Snape 
> > bias. Some believe that nothing Lupin does is ever sincere. *g*
> <  HUGE SNIP>
> 
> Alla:
> 
> Oy, can I just express my admiration for your posts, like each and 
> every one of them?


Lanval:
Thank you, and I guess I'd like to just return that compliment, and 
also express my admiration for your tireless work and loyalty to 
this community. :)

> Alla:
> Okay, here is a funny thing, for me anyways. I do not **have** any 
> Lupin bias, LOL. I mean, I of course have antiSnape bias, but I 
> cannot say that I had ever been a big fan of Lupin. I mean, 
> sympathize with him of course more than with Snape, if that counts 
> as bias and giggle every time I hear Lupin being called evil, but 
I 
> had never had especially high opinion of him. For the most part I 
> find him weak and boring. Isn't it funny that he is getting the 
most 
> smack for one night when he really **acts**?

Lanval:

Oh, how I wish Lupin would "act up" a bit more! Such patient, noble  
suffering. And when he's in No Contractions Mode, as in the 
HBP Christmas scene? Argh. Slap-worthy. :)

>Alla:
>  I know why he is the way he is because of his illness, etc. But 
> give me Sirius any time. Give me Sirius any time also because 
> Sirius, half crazy after Azkaban still has capacity to love Harry 
> and Remus just does not seem to bother to get closer to Harry 
> without Azkaban.

> And I know why JKR made Lupin to be distant from Harry IMO 
anyways, 
> I am pretty sure that she means to keep him alive and father 
figures 
> who are close to poor Harry end up dead as we know, but that does 
> not make me less annoyed with Lupin.
> 
> So, what I am trying to say is that I judge Lupin/ Snape 
interaction 
> on their actions mostly, I would like to think and boy, Snape 
still 
> comes out as disgusting bigot to me. I mean, of course I have 
> nothing but contempt for Snape left, but I still look at his 
actions 
> and shake my head in disgust.
> 
>
Lanval:

Actually, my Sirius bias beats the Lupin bias. Concerning the 
antiSnape bias, yours probably beats mine, I'd say, but we're fairly 
close. *g* Contempt for Snape, yes  -- for now. We shall see, soon.


> Alla:
> I mean, I certainly feel a need to defend Sirius often enough when 
> he is being argued against, but I still on the intellectual level 
> recognize his bad actions and acknowledge it.
>
Lanval:
Me too, though it may not look that way to most Snape fans.

Snape and Sirius -- what clinches it for me, I think, are their 
adult characters. Both were bastards in their younger days. But 
what's the worst one can accuse post-Azkaban Sirius of? Attempting 
murderous revenge, when he's still half-crazed from his years in 
prison (and a thirteen year old boy manages to talk him out of it in 
the end). What else? H e's grumpy at times. He gets depressed. He 
once makes a not-so-nice remark to Harry. Anything else? Well, he 
also still knows how to LOVE. Deeply. And on the whole, he seems a 
nice and generous enough fellow to have around. Unless your name 
happens to be Severus Snape, of course (and Molly Weasley on one 
occasion).

The worst about Adult Snape, IMO, and the reason why I so heartily 
dislike him (and why on a shallow level *g* I cannot. Ever. Find him 
sexy, as so many of his fans do. It's not his looks!) is his sheer 
patheticness. All that self-pity, the endless dwelling on real or 
imagined past insults and injustices, those constant nasty swipes at 
helpless kids, the amount of hatred he harbors for a boy whose only 
sin was to resemble his father -- geez, Severus. Pitiful indeed. As 
for everything else he's done in those six years, much of which is 
cited as evidence for him being a Good Guy, I shall await DH. All 
cards will finally be on the table then, I hope.