Werewolves and RL equivalents

wynnleaf fairwynn at hotmail.com
Tue Jun 19 01:01:49 UTC 2007


No: HPFGUIDX 170430


> > 
> > Betsy Hp:
> > I agree that Snape made the potion because Dumbledore told him to.  
> I 
> > disagree that Snape was responsible for Lupin losing his job.  Lupin 
> > lost that job all by himself.  He proved himself unable to balance 
> > his being a werewolf with the safety of his students when he 
> > transformed in front of three of those students.  By reporting the 
> > truth Snape was doing *his* job as stand in parent.
> 
> Alla:
> 
> So I wonder then do you think McGonagall, Flitwick **and** Sprout were 
> doing worse jobs as stand in parents by not telling their students 
> about Lupin?

wynnleaf
As of that morning, the other professors may have had no idea that
Lupin had been running around the grounds in werewolf form.  For all
the rest of them knew, Lupin had taken his potion and kept safely away
from students.  It was, as far as we know, only Snape who knew what
Lupin had done.

Alla

> Unless Snape is Lupin boss I do not think it is up to him to make the 
> determination who should lose the job and who does not, IMO of course.

wynnleaf
Not always.  In the case of a seriously dangerous situation, sometimes
a "whistle blower" is indeed needed.  But let's not assume that
Dumbledore wasn't getting rid of Lupin anyway and for all we know,
Snape knew it.  

The idea that poor Lupin *had* to leave because he'd been "outed"
doesn't add up once we see Hagrid, the half-giant, "outed" all over
the pages of the Daily Prophet, letters coming in from irate parents
to Dumbledore, and guess what?  Dumbledore keeps Hagrid anyway.  If
Dumbledore had wanted to attempt to weather the same storm with Lupin,
he could have at least attempted the same thing he did for Hagrid in
GOF.  No, this was *Dumbledore's* decision as well.  

And don't forget Lupin's leave-taking of Dumbledore.  It's the one and
only time we see them exchange any words in the entire series.  The
only descriptive word we have for Dumbledore's demeanor is "soberly"
which really isn't all that helpful to see what his opinion was.  But
we also see Harry, as soon as Dumbledore came on the scene, feel that
Lupin wanted to leave as soon as possible.  And Lupin told Dumbledore
not to see him out to the carriages either.  My feeling is that Lupin
wasn't too comfortable around Dumbledore at that point, and Dumbledore
doesn't seem particularly sorry to see Lupin go.

Later, when Dumbledore debriefed Harry about the night before, he
never mentioned Lupin at all.  We get picture of Dumbledore sorry to
see Lupin go.  I'd say, his silence on the matter was rather
interesting, especially when we see him stand up for Hagrid on a
number of similar occasions.

Yes, Dumbledore brought Lupin back into the Order a year later, but
that doesn't mean he wanted to trust him 24/7 around an entire school.

wynnleaf






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