Werewolves and RL equivalents

[Goddlefrood]

No: HPFGUIDX 170437

> > > Betsy Hp:

> > > I disagree that Snape was responsible for Lupin losing his 
> > > job.  Lupin lost that job all by himself. He proved himself 
> > > unable to balance his being a werewolf with the safety of 
> > > his students when he transformed in front of three of those 

> > Alla:
 
> > So I wonder then do you think McGonagall, Flitwick **and** 
> > Sprout were doing worse jobs as stand in parents by not 
> > telling their students about Lupin?

> wynnleaf

> As of that morning, the other professors may have had no idea 
> that Lupin had been running around the grounds in werewolf form.

Goddlefrood:

Alla's point seems to be, and do correct me if I am labouring 
under any kind of misapprehension Alla, that all the teachers 
including Severus and Dumbledore effectively conspired to keep 
Lupin's furry little secret from the school as a whole. This 
particular perceived sleight to Severus for his reporting of 
Lupin's condition should be laid squarely at Dumbledore's feet. 

That no teacher reported the lycanthropy of Lupin to any of 
the parents other than Snape towards the end would be a tad 
irresponsible to say the least.

I do agree that as of the morning after no other teacher might 
have known of Lupin's transformation. I do, however, think there 
may be a differing mechanism at play as to why Severus told his 
tale. Lupin, per the DADA curse, would be only able to teach 
DADA for a year. In other words he would have had to leave 
anyway. Is it not then possible that his little secret leaking 
out was planned precisely so that he would leave?

> wynnleaf:

> The idea that poor Lupin *had* to leave because he'd been 
> "outed" doesn't add up once we see Hagrid, the half-giant, 
> "outed" all over the pages of the Daily Prophet, letters 
> coming in from irate parents to Dumbledore, and guess what?

Goddlefrood:

The abover proferred explanation of self is equally if not more 
plausible. The comparison to Hagrid is hardly an apt one. Hagrid 
had been effectively Dumbledore's surrogate since Dumbledore 
managed to persuade whoever he did persuade to allow Hagrid to 
remain at Hogwarts. This is slightly more than half a century. 

Lupin, while having been a member of the Order and a spy on the 
werewolves, was only under Dumbledore's school administration 
for a year as a teacher. It makes sense to this reader that 
Dumbledore would be more concerned for Hagrid's wellbeing than 
for Lupin's. He quiote possibly also needed Remus to return to 
his Order duties. Lupin does benefit either way in that he 
continues to have DD's patronage.

> wynnleaf:

> And don't forget Lupin's leave-taking of Dumbledore. It's the 
> one and only time we see them exchange any words in the entire 
> series.

Goddlefrood:

We have never seen Dumbledore talk to his brother Aberforth in 
the series at all. Everything we see is from Harry's PoV so 
no firm opinion can be given and it certainly would not support 
any view that might be taken that somehow Dumbledore and Lupin 
did not get along for whatever reason. They most likely had 
talked before Harry's radar nopted them together, so really 
this leads us nowhere useful, IMO.

Basdically then we can not impute any adverse motives on either 
Lupin or Dumbledore due to how Lupin left the school. It seems 
that all three of the protagonists, being Snape, Lupin and DD, 
played their part and Remus *had to* leave. There may be more 
to come on this matter in DH, asnd if there is it will be 
relevant to the prank, IMO.

Oh, and if memory serves Severus was unconscious when Lupin 
transformed and did not necessarily know at that point that 
his old mucker Peter had been around either. That he knew 
Lupin had transformed the next day and let slip, to use the 
words of Lupin in the text, that Lupin was a werewolf would 
not mean that he was fulfilling his role as a responsible 
teacher in loco parentis.

Just my small two penn'orth

Goddlefrood