Justice to Snape WAS: Re: Werewolves? There Wolves!

[toonmili]

No: HPFGUIDX 170574


> Alla:
>
> Well, not to me. Actually scratch that - if I will **see** that
Snape
> is living with guilt indeed, not hear through second party word
that
> he is, I may revise my opinion.
>
>
> Right now Dumbledore's *greatest remorse* is countered by Snape's
> spinned him a  tale of the deepest remorse in my mind.
>
> If I hear from Snape that he is sorry for what he helped doing to
> Harry's parents and Harry and that he regrets it, I may think it
> counts, but I want to hear it from Snape's mouth.
>
> So, basically all depends on how it is written and only if Snape DD!
> M. Since right now I think of him as murderous, treacherous bastard
> and child abuser, no punishment is too big for him in my view.
>

Toonmili:
The fact that Harry has never heard it from Snape himself
is even more indication that it is real. If Snape really didn't care
he would just say: You know what, I got your parents killed and I'm
sorry 'bout that." But the fact that he can't talk about it,
espcially to Harry indicates that he has strong feelings about it. I
think more can be gathered from what Snape is not saying, rather than
what he is saying.


> Alla:
>
> Um, what's Wormtail has to do with it? Of course Wormtal is the
scam
> of the earth and should be brought to justice as well as far as I
am
> concerned.
>
> I cannot share your confidence that Potters would have been fine
had
> Wormtail not sold them out. Without Snape, they may not have a need
> to go in hiding in the first place and no need to come up with
Secret
> Keeper, etc, no?


Toonmili:
I think Snape and Wormtail are on opposit banks of a river.
They were both partly responsible for Lily and James' death but look
how each dealth with it. Wormtail decided that he would go and hide
out. Snape faced the music. We never saw what happened all those
years ago so we cannot assume that DD was easy on him.

Well the way I see it if Voldemort had no idea where they were it
would be pretty impossible to attack them.


> Alla:
>
> Not nearly enough for me yet. I think the life circumstances of the
> boy he helped
> to become an orphan is a tragedy, which this boy may beat or not, I
> think young couple who would have
> a chance to beat the odds and live and enjoy life without him and
did
> not is a tragedy, I think the death of Dumbledore is a tragedy.
>
> Snape's life so far? For the most part as far as I think he was
> enjoying nice quiet life as Hogwarts professor, yeah, yeah, I know,
> he may not have liked teaching "brats". I think beats Azkaban any
> time.
>
> Maybe now when he is despised by WW, maybe he will have some well
> overdue tragedy in his life IMO.
>
> I hope Snape will get what he deserves, depends on whatever Snape
we
> see.
>

Toonmili:
Oh come on. I really don't think he set out trying to
destroy the Potters. We don't know his full story and why he did what
he did. The only person who knew his reason trusted him. I think
Dumbledore is a very intelligent person and he can tell when people
are being sinsere, just like he picked up on Tom. Why is it when it
comes to Snape do we think that DD is suddenly unreliable.

We don't know his full story. The little parts I saw of it seemed
pretty bad. I don't imagine he ever had a happy day in his life. His
school life was horrible. His home life was horrible. I can't imagine
being a death eater is all fun and games either and I know it seems
like a good life to you but if he was in love with lily (and this is
very possible) then his life at Hogwarts would be horrible as well as
he would have to live with the guilt of having caused her death. For
some reason you seem to think he is living it up. There is no doubt
in my mind that he has paid and is still paying for his part in the
whole thing.

I'm certain by the end of bookk seven you will change your mind.