Snape's the Rescuer - Really?/Justice to Snape

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No: HPFGUIDX 170644

> Julie:
> I don't think the Prophecy is actually clear enough for 
> Snape to have known he was delivering an unnamed couple 
> and their baby to Voldemort. *Especially* if Snape only heard
> part of it. Not only is the first part not completely clear
> on whether this person who "approaches" is already in existence
> or not, the "either must die at the hand of the other" doesn't
> come until the second part of the Prophecy.
> 
> Thus Snape's thought process might have anything from 1.
> "The Dark Lord will no doubt ignore this, since prophecies
> are idiotic anyway, but I'll stay in his good graces since
> he sent me specifically to spy" to 2. "Hmm, someone may in
> the future be a threat to the Dark Lord, so this information 
> will help him come up with a game plan to protect himself
> *should* that threat materialize" to 3. "This must refer to a
> baby who will soon be born, and no doubt the Dark Lord will
> believe this Prophecy fully and will want to immediately
> kill this helpless baby and his family instead of waiting
> around to see if the kid grows up to be some sort of threat.
> Not that he could ever kill the Dark Lord...AS IF!!!" (Snape
> only heard part of the Prophecy as far as we know, remember).
> 
> Which thought is more likely from 20(?) year old Severus
> Snape, follower of Lord Voldemort? I suspect Thought One
> is at least as likely if not more likely than Thought Three.
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Alla:

Okay, the explanation that Snape just did not understand the prophecy 
always amuses me a lot. Why, why would Snape think that Voldemort even 
postpone hunting the prophecy couple? Did he ever show that he erm.... 
postpones hunting after his enemies?

He tries **obsessively** to get the prophecy all year in OOP, does he 
not?

What exactly may lead Snape to believe that Voldemort would not act 
right away? Goodness of his heart? Voldemort's I mean?

Or of course I always offer  possibility that Snape is stupid at 20 
years old, but no, sorry, even I can not buy it.

I think Snape was perfectly aware of what he was doing and what dark 
deed he was committing ( Please JKR tell me that DD did not tell him 
to do that, or get them both together to suffer for eternity).


And we do believe Dumbledore, yes? Or we only believe Dumbledore when 
he *trusts Severus Snape* and do not believe him when he brings up 
information that does not sound sooo good for Snape?

And in the quote that Mike brought up, I think it is clear enough for 
me that the only thing Snape did not know **which boy** Voldemort will 
be hunting, NOT that he will be hunting a nameless child and his 
parents. That I think Snape was perfectly aware of.


Ceridwen brought up a point that Snape had to report it to Dark Lord. 
Eh, why and if he had to, does it make it better somehow?

He joined a gang of killers and torturers, so I guess killing and 
torture was in the job description, does it have to be excused for 
that reason?

Ceridwen, I know you did not suggest the last point, just asking in 
general.




Renee:
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> Nor does Dumbledore in any way suggest that Snape saved anyone's life
> or soul that night. Claims that Snape saved Harry's life and soul are
> therefore grossly exaggerated. Harry1 was saved by Harry2, and by no
> one else.


Alla:

Yes, indeed. Thus when Dumbledore mentions that James saved Snape's 
life, that means that Snape faced mortal danger, no less. But when 
Dumbledore says that Harry saved lives that night, it still means that 
Snape saved lives, LOLOLOLOL. Snape always saves lives after all.

After all, he conducted that act of **exceptional kindless**, 
remember? He conjured stretchers to deliver Sirius to execution. 
MAHAHAHAH. I will deliver you to death with all care and kindess I can.

Yeah, I am being sarcastic of course. But the example of Snape making 
stretchers as him being **kind** always make me want to use sarcasm 
and since I do not do it often, I thought I just will.


Nice to see you Renee. :)