Snape's the Rescuer - Really?/Justice to Snape
dumbledore11214
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Mon Jun 25 02:47:14 UTC 2007
No: HPFGUIDX 170732
> Alla:
>
> Okay, maybe you can explain this one to me, after all, even when
we
> disagree I can often understand your POV. So, how is this scene is
> Snape caring for people?
<SNIP>
>> Magpie:
> I think the problem is the word "caring"--and I've been trying to
think of
> a different one, but I can't. Because Snape is being shown
here "caring"
> for people in terms of taking care of them--stretchers, hospital
wing, etc.
> But he doesn't "care for" them in terms of showing affection for
them. For
> Sirius, in particularly, he's bringing him in to justice, not
mothering him.
>
> There's of course plenty of ways to say that he "had to" do it--
but JKR
> didn't have to have him to it, regardless. It's just an image that
I think
> sticks in the mind a bit. It's just a visual image that goes along
with a
> lot of consistent images for Snape that go along with the scenes
of him
> being sarcastic and cruel. He's not being particularly nice here,
but he's
> not being cruel--even with Sirius, I don't think we can use the
fact that
> Sirius might be kissed against him. He's taking Sirius to the
authorities.
> It's not that he *cares* meaning that he's being affectionate, but
he's
> taking care of people in terms of putting them on stretchers and
all.
Alla:
Oh, you are genuis. This is a great linguistic moment indeed, but
that's not quite it for me.
I mean, I was using the word *caring* to mean Snape helping people,
not exactly that he was being affectionate, you know?
Does it make sense? I agree with you, if you are saying that Snape
is **taking care of people here** in a same way as **taking care of
business**, then sure, I agree with you.
Snape is taking care of business or people as he sees fit, LOL. In
particulartly he is taking care of Sirius to deliver him to
dementors, no?
But then you are saying that Snape not being cruel here and I just
do not see how, you know?
I mean, it just so obvious to me that Snape cannot wait to see
Sirius kissed, that I do not see how the fact that he is taking care
of Sirius in term of putting him on stretchers shows anything
besides Snape's cruelty and hyppocrisy.
And, let me say again - if Snape has no doubts in his mind that
Sirius is a murderer, traitor, etc, I get his POV, I truly do.
But the fact that he gags unconscious Sirius suggests to me what
Lanval said - Snape sees that there is a case to be made for Sirius'
innocence and he does not want to hear. IMO of course.
JMO,
Alla
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