Snape's the Rescuer - Really?/Justice to Snape

dumbledore11214 dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Mon Jun 25 02:47:14 UTC 2007


No: HPFGUIDX 170732

> Alla:
> 
> Okay, maybe you can explain this one to me, after all, even when 
we 
> disagree I can often understand your POV. So, how is this scene is 
> Snape caring for people?
<SNIP>


>> Magpie:
> I think the problem is the word "caring"--and I've been trying to 
think of
> a different one, but I can't. Because Snape is being shown 
here "caring"
> for people in terms of taking care of them--stretchers, hospital 
wing, etc.
> But he doesn't "care for" them in terms of showing affection for 
them. For
> Sirius, in particularly, he's bringing him in to justice, not 
mothering him.
> 
> There's of course plenty of ways to say that he "had to" do it--
but JKR
> didn't have to have him to it, regardless. It's just an image that 
I think
> sticks in the mind a bit. It's just a visual image that goes along 
with a
> lot of consistent images for Snape that go along with the scenes 
of him
> being sarcastic and cruel. He's not being particularly nice here, 
but he's
> not being cruel--even with Sirius, I don't think we can use the 
fact that
> Sirius might be kissed against him. He's taking Sirius to the 
authorities.
> It's not that he *cares* meaning that he's being affectionate, but 
he's
> taking care of people in terms of putting them on stretchers and 
all.


Alla:

Oh, you are genuis. This is a great linguistic moment indeed, but 
that's not quite it for me.

I mean, I was using the word *caring* to mean Snape helping people, 
not exactly that he was being affectionate, you know?

Does it make sense? I agree with you, if you are saying that Snape 
is **taking care of people here** in a same way as **taking care of 
business**, then sure, I agree with you.

Snape is taking care of business or people as he sees fit, LOL. In 
particulartly he is taking care of Sirius to deliver him to 
dementors, no?


But then you are saying  that Snape not being cruel here and I just 
do not see how, you know?

I mean, it just so obvious to me that Snape cannot wait to see 
Sirius kissed, that I do not see how the fact that he is taking care 
of Sirius in term of putting him on stretchers shows anything 
besides Snape's cruelty and hyppocrisy.

And, let me say again - if Snape has no doubts in his mind that 
Sirius is a murderer, traitor, etc, I get his POV, I truly do.

But the fact that he gags unconscious Sirius suggests to me what 
Lanval said - Snape sees that there is a case to be made for Sirius' 
innocence and he does not want to hear. IMO of course.

JMO,

Alla





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