[HPforGrownups] Did Voldemort make use of a Horcrux already?
Ronin_47
Ronin_47 at comcast.net
Thu Mar 1 01:00:48 UTC 2007
No: HPFGUIDX 165561
--Inge Wrote--
>>> As most other subjects, this has probably been discussed earlier,
but I'm wondering if maybe Voldemort already used one of the 6
Horcruxes which he created.
What makes me ask is parts of the following speaches from Voldemort
in GOF, chap The Death Eaters
1) (p 562): "And then I ask myself, but how could they have believed
I would not rise again? They, who knew the steps I took, long ago,
to gueard myself against mortal death? They, who had seen proofs of
the immensity of my power, in the times when I was mightier than any
wizard living?"
and later
2) (p 566): "I was ripped from my body, I was less than spirit, less
than the meanest ghost... but still, I was alive. What I was, even I
do not know... I, who have gone further than anybody along the path
that leads to immortality. You know my goal - to conquer death. And
now, I was tested, AND IT APPEARED THAT ONE OR MORE OF MY
EXPERIMENTS HAD WORKED... (my highlights) for I had not been killed,
though the curse should have done it."
Ok, to me it appears that at the time Voldemort was hit by the
backfiring AK, he may have "died" and lost the soul-piece inside
him, which was at that exact moment replaced by one of the Horcruxes.
Too far off?
Inge <<<
--Ronin's Comments--
It seems that parts of canon are in conflict over this.
My understanding of horcruxes from HBP is that only one needs to be created
to make the wizard immortal. This had been done by others. Lord VOldemort's
idea was that it would be better to have more. 7 is the most powerful number
in the WW, so 7 horcruxes would be the best (as a fail safe system). If one
was discovered and destroyed, there would be others to take it's place.
But, I don't think that the horcux is actually "USED" when Voldemort dies.
Rather, it ties the piece of soul that is inside his physical body to earth
until a new form can be found. This is why the horcruxes must be destroyed
before that last piece of soul is destroyed to kill Voldemort forever. Now
we know the diary was destroyed and Marvolo's ring.
The conflicting part is that old fool Dumbledore! lol He thought he was the
first to discover Voldemorts secret, that nobody else even knew of horcruxes
aside from Horace Slughorne. But obviously, Voldemort had mentioned his
amazing feat with some of his death eaters, since he refers to them as
you've shown with examples from GOF. And somebody had to not only know about
the locket, but if Dumbledore was correct and there was no way to retrieve
the locket alone, would've had to have an accomplace. (Maybe Regulus
Adolphos Black and Severus Snape...IMO)
At any rate, the 7th piece of Voldemort's soul is the one that seeks the
unicorn's blood and the SS as a temporary fix until it can regain a new for.
It is less than a spirit because it is in fact only a fraction of a whole
spirit.
That's my take on it anyway...
Cheers,
Ronin
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