Who suffers better in Potterverse - good guys or bad guys? WAS : Unbreakable vo

dumbledore11214 dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Fri Mar 2 22:32:13 UTC 2007


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> > Alla:
> > 
> > Where was she **graphic** in describing suffering? At the top of 
my 
> > head, I can only qualify Harry in Graveyard, more or less. IMO of 
> > course.
> 
> Pippin:
> Off the top of my head in no particular order,  Harry hears Lily 
> screaming in his dementor memories, screams
> himself in the graveyard, sees Molly screaming over the boggart
> memory, Ron screaming about spiders in the FF, Sirius being
> tortured by Voldemort (okay it's not "real" , but it's still a 
torture
> scene) Neville tortured by Bella, Ron getting attacked by brains,
> suffering for at least an hour with a broken leg, and so on.

Alla:

Hee, definitely top of your head is better than mine. I do not count 
couple of them as real suffering, hurt-comfort, etc ( like Ron 
screaming about spiders and Ron attacked by brains), and I am still 
not sure how graphic they are in general, but certainly every other 
example I accept is at least of the same level as Harry in graveyard.

But again, that does not really answer my question.  What did you 
mean by that sentence?

Does it mean that Rowling *has to** make Snape a good guy if she 
wants to torture him?


Pippin: 
> The bad guys tend to suffer more permanent damage, but it's
> usually off screen. Whatever happened to Umbridge, we didn't
> see it. Ditto Crouch Jr, Quirrell, Karkaroff, Bella, Lucius, 
Kreacher,
> need I go on? 

Alla:

Okay, but who says that Snape **has to** be tortured on screen? I 
don't think that was Neri's original point, was it?

Say we learn that his head was cut off of screen - would certainly be 
plenty enough to satisfy me for example. :)







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