The Eagle Owl/Re: Harry's dreams in GoF

pippin_999 foxmoth at qnet.com
Sat Mar 3 17:04:18 UTC 2007


No: HPFGUIDX 165655


> Magpie:
> I feel very guilty snipping all of this because I think it's a really 
> good question--one that I also wondered about in GoF. Is it just the 
> JKR thought it was a neat way to segue into Harry after that opening 
> chapter? Not exactly, since Harry wakes up knowing something is wrong 
> and remembering part of the dream. But why is he dreaming about Frank 
> and not Voldemort? And why does he later dream of those events also 
> not from Voldemort's pov? 

Pippin:
The false dream Harry has at the end of OOP is also not from 
Voldemort's point of view, so it's not a device that JKR experimented
with and then abandoned. 

Voldemort seems to have the ability to project his awareness. 
Dumbledore explains that Harry dreamed of the ministry because that's
where Voldemort's thoughts were at the moment. IMO, Harry enters that
awareness the way he can enter memories in the pensieve -- he 
observes independently, not from inside the rememberer.

If Voldemort focuses his awareness on himself, however, then Harry
naturally observes from inside Voldemort, because that's where
Voldemort's thoughts are at that time. Does that make sense?

The GoF dream is a little different. What we're told can't be what
Harry was dreaming about exactly, because our version of the
story starts fifty years before and tells us who Frank Bryce is
and all about his history. Instead, we seem to be getting a third 
person account of events, some of which, when Harry awakes, we
discover he's been dreaming about.

Pippin





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