Why Ginny is not the part of the Trio Was: Re: CHAPDISC: HBP30, ...

[Steve]

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---  "dumbledore11214" <dumbledore11214 at ...> wrote:
>
> > a_svirn:
> > Well, yes, I think you are right. Obviously, Rowling
> > wanted the Trio to be always a Trio. But speaking 
> > personally, as a reader, I would like to have it 
> > explained from Harry's point of view. OK, he ended 
> > their romantic relationship for "some stupid noble 
> > reason". But what was (is) the cause of her constant
> > exclusion? You (and me) may not see the reason to 
> > "change the core of Trio", but it occurs to me that 
> > Harry might have thought of a reason or two.
> >
> 
> Alla:
> 
> Hmmmm, that is a good point. I agree that I would like
> to hear it rom Harry's POV, but only starting HBP, I 
> guess.
> 
> I suppose that before HBP it never felt strange for 
> me from Harry's POV. Ginny was just Ron's little sister,
> even if she is friendly one, loyal one, the one he had 
> to save, etc.
> 
> Starting HBP and probably even OOP, Harry finds more
> staff in common with her, she is a member of the DA, 
> and Harry falls in love with her and supposedly, no 
> matter how short that was, it is friendship first, love
> later, so I think I would agree that in HBP I would 
> love to hear why Harry still does not include Ginny
> in Trio's business.
>

bboyminn:

I really think people are overlooking the difference
between the Harry/Ron/Hermione relationship and the
Harry/Ginny relationship. There is a huge difference
between 'friend' and 'girlfriend'. 'Friend time' is
INclusive time; that is, you invite all your friends
to join in. In this case, that is just Ron and
Hermione. But 'Girlfriend time' is EXclusive time.
That is a time when Ron and Hermione are generally
excluded, and it is just Harry and Ginny. 

Even when all four are sitting around the common room,
we see far more physical intimacy with Ginny, who is
sitting between Harry's legs, than we ever have seen 
with Ron or Herione. (Unless of course, you read a lot
of Slash fan fic.)

I have to believe people here are old enough and 
experienced enough to understand the very real and deep
difference between 'friend time' and 'girlfriend time',
even when that girlfriend time is still very innocent.

Despite the innocents, it still represents a very intimate
time, and an intimacy that is very different than that 
seen between Harry, Ron, and Hermione. They do have an
intimacy, but it is a social intimacy. Harry and Ginny
have a more romantic, physical, and emotional intimacy. 

Consequently, and especially now after HBP, Harry is 
going to react differently to any situation that involves
Ginny; it's just instinct. He can go into battle with
Ron and Hermione and trust them to take care of themselves.
For one thing, they have already proven they can handle
themselves under pressure. But if Ginny is with them,
then they whole dynamic changes. Instead of concentrating
on the task at hand, Harry is going to constantly be 
concerned with protecting Ginny, even though Ginny is
a very strong witch who can protect herself. 

Like I said, to some extent, it is instinct. Harry's 
primal concerns are in protecting future generations, and
that means protecting Ginny above everything. To Harry,
that is a dark and dangerous distraction that he simply 
can not afford. So, I think he was absolutely right in
cutting Ginny out of his life, and I think Ginny really
truly completely understands what Harry is saying and
what is motivating him, but I still say that doesn't 
mean she is going to comply. I simply don't think she
is the personality type to just fade into the background
while Harry does everything. 

Whether Harry likes it or not, Ginny will insert herself
into the story. 

I don't think there is any way to compare or equate the
Harry/Ron/Hermione relationship with the Harry/Ginny
relationship. They are very very very different beasts.

Just passing it along.

Steve/bboyminn