Percy
lupinlore
rdoliver30 at yahoo.com
Wed Mar 14 19:21:57 UTC 2007
No: HPFGUIDX 166083
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> Carol:
> > Yes, that's my impression as well. He's tried before the entire
> Wizengamot, but Fudge is not in charge of sentencing, Madam Bones
is.
> .
>
Ceridwen:
>
> So, did Dumbledore fail to sort things out because there was a full
> hearing of the Wizengamot? Or was he successful? It worked out
> well, and Madam Bones being "strict but fair" was a large part of
> that. Since it's the Wizengamot, Fudge is not in charge. It seems
> to me that a full court was the best and fairest thing for Harry.
Errrm...Madam Bones in charge, of sentencing or anything else in the
Wizengamot session? It seemed quite apparent that it was FUDGE who
WAS in charge, as much as anyone was, both bringing the charges and
acting as chairman of the gathering. Madam Bones seemed only one
member of the Wizengamot ... albeit a witch of very strong
personality. And it may well be that DD used the full Wizengamot as
a way of countering Fudge, hoping that his influence with Madam Bones
and his few remaining friends on the tribunal would sway the day.
But it seems much more likely that Fudge was inflating the charges to
a full trial situation in order to pack in as many supporters as
possible and bring the full weight of official power squarely down on
Harry, and by extension Dumbledore. We certainly have evidence of
such an escalation in DD's own words. He reminds Fudge that when the
Minister (or his flunkies) had summarily expelled Harry that he "had
to remind you that the Ministry does not expel students from
Hogwarts" (paraphrase). Given that Fudge had been balked in
using "administrative" measures, it is likely that his next move was
to bump everything up to the Wizengamot, where he felt he could sway
matters his way. And he almost succeeded, as well, were it not for
some rehearsed and risky perjury on the part of Mrs. Figg (pretending
she could see dementors when we are told later she cannot) and the
timely defiance of Fudge by Madam Bones.
Lupinlore, thinking DD would be taking an awfully dumb risk if it was
his idea to go to a full trial -- what if there was somebody on the
panel (maybe one of the new members since DD's expulsion) who had
more knowledge of squibs than he realized? Also pointing out that we
have another gap in logic, here, as both DD and Mrs. Figg have handed
Fudge a legal and political broadsword he could use against them (and
Harry) were Fudge or his supporters ever to find out that squibs
actually CAN'T see dementors.
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