Hagrid the animal abuser (was:Hagrid and Draco WAS:Re: Dumbledore...

[horridporrid03]

No: HPFGUIDX 166149

> >>Betsy:
> > <snip>
> > It was Buckbeak's bad luck to wind up in Hagrid's care.  He's    
> > just lucky he got away before Hagrid could put him to mounting a 
> > thestral.

> >>Hickengruendler:
> Ah, but don't forget, Buckbeak, eh Witherwings, is back now. So 
> there's still time. ;-)

Betsy Hp:
Hee!  Fly, Buckbeak, fly!

> >>Hickengruendler:
> Anyway, I disagree that Hagrid is an animal abuser. There's nothing 
> wrong with how he treated the Hippogriffs.

Betsy Hp:
He brought 12 animals that if not treated just so will attack, and if 
they attack are liable to be put down, in amongst a group of 
adolescents.  The lack of responsiblibity Hagrid showed was 
staggering.  Buckbeak nearly died because Hagrid couldn't handle the 
responsibility of being his owner.  So yeah, I'd say Hagrid isn't all 
that good to the beasties that fall into his hands.  He's like a bad 
circus guy.  (Hagrid would have totally ended up having to kill 
Dumbo's mother. <g>)

> >>Hickengruendler:
> And regarding Norbert, Hagrid came to his senses pretty soon, as I 
> suspect he would have with Aragog as well.

Betsy Hp:
Eh, not how I remembered it.  Didn't the Trio have to practically 
twist Hagrid's arm?  (This *after* Ron was badly injured -- Hagrid 
certainly could care less about child saftey.)  And Hagrid does keep 
Aragog in the Forbidden Forest, introducing an entirely foreign 
species into that environment.  IIRC, the centaurs were still a bit 
miffed about that.

> >>Hickengruendler: 
> The real problem is, that he lacks the comment sense to see what a 
> danger the creatures could be to other humans, like when he sent 
> Harry and Ron to the spiders. But this has nothing to do with the 
> treatment of the animals themselves.

Betsy Hp:
But it's got *everything* to do with his treatment of the animals.  
Hagrid doesn't have the commen sense to keep them safe.  Hippogriffs 
are dangerous because of what sort of animals they are, and he should 
be aware of that.  By putting the hippogriffs in a situation where 
they are likely to hurt humans, he's risking their lives, and that's 
what's abusive. 

Betsy Hp