[HPforGrownups] Hagrid the animal abuser (was:Hagrid and Draco WAS:Re: Dumbledore...

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>> >>Hickengruendler:
>> Anyway, I disagree that Hagrid is an animal abuser. There's nothing
>> wrong with how he treated the Hippogriffs.
>
> Betsy Hp:
> He brought 12 animals that if not treated just so will attack, and if
> they attack are liable to be put down, in amongst a group of
> adolescents.  The lack of responsiblibity Hagrid showed was
> staggering.  Buckbeak nearly died because Hagrid couldn't handle the
> responsibility of being his owner.  So yeah, I'd say Hagrid isn't all
> that good to the beasties that fall into his hands.  He's like a bad
> circus guy.  (Hagrid would have totally ended up having to kill
> Dumbo's mother. <g>)


Shelley:
I just think it's way off base to consider Hagrid an animal abuser, and to 
put him in the same light as a bad circus guy. We have to remember that the 
Wizarding community has animals and plants that are much different than our 
own. Many of their plants bite, sting, strangle, KILL and so forth. Just 
look at the ones considered safe enough for school kids to study even! 
Mandrakes that Even being a herbologist could get you killed in the 
wizarding world. Then you start to look at the animals, and some of them are 
the same types of dangerous, too weird for Muggles such as ourselves, must 
exercise caution when handling, creatures. In the past, it wasn't considered 
unusual for wizards to breed and keep dragons, yes, dragons, as pets in 
their back yard. No wonder why Hagrid wants a dragon- it's in his blood, his 
heritage as a wizard. Therefore, I don't think it's fair to put Hagrid on 
the same level as a Muggle animal abuser today who has no clue of an 
animal's natural needs. The wizarding world is a different world from our 
own, and we must not forget that when we make judgments. These animals exist 
normally in the wizarding world, and the wizards share their habitats. Some 
wizards have professions breeding and caring for these creatures. Had Hagrid 
not been expelled in his third year, his gift with animals would have been a 
great, and not unusual for a wizard, career choice for him. But because he 
was expelled, his only avenue of taking care of animals is by keeping the 
grounds of Hogwarts, and by extension, the forbidden forest. I would say 
he's got a great relationship with those animals that he tends and is a 
protector of. To say that Hagrid is an animal abuser is to run around and 
point fingers at every mother today and accuse them of being a child abuser. 
It just doesn't logically follow, and I don't think Rowling gives us any 
canon to say otherwise.

Aragog- Hagrid does find a home for this creature in the forbidden forest. 
He cared so much for him that he found him a WIFE, so that he could breed 
and live a normal spider life. When he is sick and nearing the end of his 
life, who is there to try and nurse this spider back to health? Why it's 
Hagrid, his old friend.

Buckbeak is only on trial because of Malfoy's sick desire to get Hagrid 
sacked as a teacher, to destroy what's at Hogwarts. We don't see any of the 
other students suing when one of the plants in herbology stings or bites 
them, when they get red hot boils in potions class when a potion has gone 
off badly, nor when they get stung by the screwts, nor after they've been 
spanked by the whomping willow, or gotten broken arms, wrists and noses in 
Quiddich.  Hogwarts is full of daily dangers, and Malfoy only makes an issue 
of it to get what he wants. If that Care of Magical Creatures class teacher 
had been a Slytherin, and Malfoy got chosen first to go and did it wrongly, 
and thus got the same (minor!)scrape on arm, I highly doubt that any of us 
would be even debating this issue. Hagrid is not to be blamed for Malfoy's 
cocky attitude and stupidity.

Shelley