Magical animals in canon/ Fawkes and Snape.

cubfanbudwoman susiequsie23 at sbcglobal.net
Mon Mar 19 23:19:08 UTC 2007


No: HPFGUIDX 166284

Hickengruendler:
> > But if this true, why didn't Dumbledore put Fawkes on alert the 
> > night he died? After all, he went to a dangerous mission, and 
> > even if he didn't expect the Death eaters to appear in Hogwarts, 
> > he surely knew that the Horcrux hunt would hold some real 
> > dangers for his life *and Harry's*. Therefore telling Fawkes to 
> > be ready for the worst, just in case, seems not only logical, 
> > but really necessary, at the very least for Harry's sake.
 
Jen: 
> 'You are with me,' said Dumbledore simply.  The fact that Fawkes 
> didn't appear in the cave when Dumbledore collapsed and Harry was 
> about to be pulled under by the Inferi tells me Fawkes was not 
> meant to intervene.
> 
> I don't think it's Fawkes' nature, no matter how loyal he is to 
> Dumbledore, to intervene in every situation.  Perhaps Fawkes 
> sensed it was Dumbledore's time to pass on that night, that the 
> next great adventure was waiting?  Fawkes isn't going to arrive in 
> the nick of time to save Dumbledore everytime he's in danger or 
> Dumbledore wouldn't have a problem with the concept of 
> immortality.  Dumbledore would want to know that when it's his 
> time to go, Fawkes will allow him to leave.  Maybe that's what 
> brought Fawkes to the MOM, he sensed it wasn't Dumbledore's time 
> to go.

SSSusan:
Yes, either that or Dumbledore sensed it WAS his time to go as 
events began to play out that last night.  Perhaps Fawkes *was* "on 
call" but DD never issued the final instruction for him to come 
because it became obvious to DD that it was his time?  

I have thought all along that DD knew he was dying due to the ring 
horcrux curse.  It may have been a slow process, but I believe he 
knew it was inevitably going to do him in.  Perhaps then imbibing 
the cave potion/inferi-infested lake water made DD even more aware 
of the likelihood that the end was VERY near... and he simply 
decided not to call upon Fawkes.

I'm still intrigued by the question Jen asked in the post to which 
Hickengruendler was responding:
> > > why couldn't Fawkes heal the ring curse injury?  Because it's 
> > > dark magic or was too big or...?

SSSusan:
Obviously I don't know, either, but I'm banking on its having been 
because of the dark magic and/or evil in the ring curse.  I don't 
think phoenix tears CAN'T cure anything which is dark magic or evil 
[would the basilisk venom be considered one of those??], but there 
may well have been something specific in the ring curse which was 
uncurable.

Siriusly Snapey Susan, thinking DD knew the end was near when he 
left *for* the cave and knew it was quite imminent by the time he 
*left* the cave







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