Fawkes possible absence (was: Magical animals in canon/ Fawkes and Snape)

sistermagpie belviso at attglobal.net
Tue Mar 20 17:06:43 UTC 2007


No: HPFGUIDX 166307

> >magpie:
> > If Dumbledore had just realized something like this and started 
taking steps we'd have
> > to, imo, see those beats in what's actually written even if for 
some reason we weren't
> > told about it until DH.
> 
> Dana:
> Of course we only have the entire OotP book, that LV was after the 
prophecy and then we have him suddenly change his mind in HBP.  The 
prophecy orb might be lost but the one that made the prophecy is very 
much alive and we know that LV has no trouble to pick someone's mind 
even when it is tampered with like Bertha Jorkins.


Magpie:
That's not quite what I was talking about, though. We know that last 
year LV was after the Prophecy, and that Trelawney is still around. We 
know why she's at Hogwarts. But if Dumbledore is supposed to have 
realized, when Harry told him Trelawney was near the RoR, that in fact 
the entire Draco plot of HBP (a major thread) is actually about 
Trelawney and then taken steps to spirit her away...I think we need 
some sign of Dumbledore realizing something and doing something. But 
we don't have that. Nor do we have any signs that the DEs are there in 
service of that sort of thing. That's supposed to be what's going on 
in HBP, but it's not revealed. It would be like a theory where Fake!
Moody was really Regulus Black instead of Barty Crouch Jr whent he 
whole climax was about Barty Crouch.

I mean, in GoF Voldemort was dead set on killing Harry, but he's not 
trying to kill him in HBP. The books have certain things that do carry 
over, but in general their plots are self-contained.

-m






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