LV's bigger plan / Trelawney at the funeral or not?

Ceridwen ceridwennight at hotmail.com
Sun Mar 25 16:19:58 UTC 2007


No: HPFGUIDX 166458

Dana:
> From the conversations we witnessed it was not meant for us to 
think he would be able to succeed and there was no surprise he wasn't 
indeed capable of murdering people. Yes, he did (bringing DEs into 
the castle) but now you have killed my theory so LV's bigger plan 
theory to gain access to the castle besides Draco's task has become 
invalid at least from this perspective. So although fun while it 
lasted it is back to the drawing board and stuffing old theories into 
the cupboard.

Ceridwen:
Make that "into the Vanishing Cabinet", Dana!  You never know what 
those ideas will turn into, once someone gets them out.  ;)  For 
instance:

If Draco did tell LV about the Vanishing Cabinet, why didn't LV use 
it for something besides a plot to get rid of DD via Draco's hand, 
which he didn't expect to succeed?  He could have used this cabinet 
idea to sneak his own people into Hogwarts, even to come himself if 
he wanted, and wreak mayhem in the middle of the night, some night 
when such a thing was least expected.  Reading along in this thread, 
I am slowly coming to the conclusion that if LV had known about this 
very secret way into Hogwarts, he would have given Draco a much 
different sort of assistance, at least as far as the cabinet was 
concerned.

Think of the access he would have had, with no one the wiser!  Kidnap 
Trelawney, kidnap and/or kill Harry, sneak Wormtail in, sneak in a 
variety of Dark items without having to get by Filch's Secrecy 
Sensor.  He could have snuck into the castle himself and killed 
Dumbledore, with no one, least of all Dumbledore, being the wiser.

He could have made quite a spectacle, taking out Dumbledore at 
dinner, in full view of all the students, bringing in his DEs to 
surround the students and staff, killing anyone who dared to oppose 
him, then holding the remaining students and staff as hostages.  If 
Draco died in the assault, he would have been a casualty of war.  
Lucius would still be punished, because LV would certainly have 
gotten the message to him that Draco's death was no accident.  He 
could have saved face by killing Dumbledore himself, and he could 
have had the entire WW on its knees and ready to agree to his demands.

Everything we've speculated about concerning LV getting into 
Hogwarts, could have been accomplished if only LV knew about the 
cabinets.  Therefore, I propose that Voldemort didn't know the 
specifics of Draco's plan, or he would have used the Vanishing 
Cabinets to more advantage.

Ceridwen.





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