Fenrir Greyback a Muggle-born?

[Goddlefrood]

No: HPFGUIDX 166481

> > Goddlefrood from the past, with further snipping:

> > The bit that interested me was the last line suggesting 
that there may be a Muggle-born Death Eater among the ranks 
of those degenerates.

> > My view is that due to the description of werewolves in 
Fantastic Beasts & Where to Find Them <snip>: "Humans turn 
into werewolves only when bitten"

> > It is a fair possiblility that Fenrir Greyback was 
originally either a human himself, or if not a Muggle-born 
wizard.

> Carol responds:

> Quick question at this point. By "human," do you mean 
Muggle? Wizards, Muggle-born or otherwise, are human. 
Just asking for clarification.

Goddlefrood:

Human is self-explanatory as you allude, I meant both 
Muggles and Wizards, which the FB&WTFT entry goes on to 
state, as also referred in Carol's response ostensibly 
to Kemper's  interesting point on Peter. That was (in 
parts):

<snip> (Carol's)

> > I think it is Wormtail who is the Mudblood Death Eater. 
He alone had the 'rare circumstance' of being close to the 
Order and the Potters.

> Carol again:
> I think Kemper is probably right that Wormtail is the 
"Mudblood" Death Eater.

Goddlefrood:

I concur if for no other reason than JKR has said we will not 
be meeting any new characters of any substance. Our suspect 
then is almost certainly amongst the ranks of those we have 
already met.

Peter Pettigrew is a prime suspect, but as I say Fenrir can 
not be overlooked. Perhaps they are both Muggle-born.

> Carol:

> JKR wrote FB, too, so it can contain Flints in the sense of 
inconsistencies with the primary canon established in the HP
books (which are not themselves entirely consistent, in any 
case).

Goddlefrood:

Keen on Flints, glad we cleared up at least one the other 
day ;).

The parameters for werewolves and their formation are not 
clear in JKR's definition, as can be gleaned from canon. 
This point will almost certainly be revisited when we get 
the long awaited explanation for the life debt Severus owed 
to James (still not about tpo comment on SS's duplicity :)). 
It may then become clear how werewolves are made in the 
Harry Potter universe.

In mythology werewolves are typically, although not always, 
represented as being created from a bite by another werewolf. 
There is a point of interest in here also. Wolfsbane Potion 
seems to control a werewolf, but if there is such a thing as 
a Homorphus Charm as claimed by Gilderoy Lockhart in CoS (he 
said he cured a werewolf) then why is it not used on those, 
such as Remus, who clearly do not enjoy their lupine state. 
This may be a Flint for you also, or perhaps the Homorphus 
Charm was only known to the wizard whose memory Gilderoy 
must have obliviated.

It would please this writer greatly if Remus were to somehow 
meet this wonder man with his memory restored and be himslef 
cured of his lycanthropy.

> Carol

> We know that Lupin, a wizard, became a werewolf when he was 
bitten as a child 

Goddlefrood:

Indeed we do know this, or should if we read as closely as 
many here. We also know from HBP that Lupin (at work but I 
apprehend during "A Very Frosty Christmas" chapter) that 
Greyback himself created Remus as a werewolf due to Lupin's 
parents upsetting either Fenrir himself or LV. FWIW there is 
no mythology of which I have been made aware that is 
indicative of a werewolf being able to be born of werewolf 
parents.

I find it unlikely that JKR would be so far inconsistent in 
her rules for werewolves being created as to make this 
departure from them.

> Carol:

> At any rate, Greyback's name and his unusual tendencies, 
including an appetite for human flesh and the capacity to 
create not infected but *cursed* wounds when he's in human 
form, make me wonder whether he wasn't born a werewolf to 
werewolf parents who passed on to him their own hatred of 
normal wizards. (I can't call it racism; it's a fierce 
hatred or enmity against those who shun them as evil and 
dirty and unnatural. And, if the parents are anything like 
the child, the WW's attitude can't be called racism, either. 
It's a very understandable fear and loathing.)

Goddlefrood:

He is certainly a very worrying and troublesome gentleman 
(which is completely inappropriate, but as Jeeves might 
say ;)). As I stated in my earlier I certainly hope he was 
arrested by and is under containment by the Ministry.

Goddlefrood who now steps back into real life for a murder 
case of some import that is currently occupying him (or 
would have been but for this momentary distraction ;)