Trelawney's prediction & end of HBP (Trelawney at the funeral or not?)
sistermagpie
belviso at attglobal.net
Tue Mar 27 16:21:40 UTC 2007
No: HPFGUIDX 166517
> Dana wrote:
> >
> > I do not agree that just because he wants to avoid someone it
> > therefore means he wouldn't think anything about them. We see
> > that he wants to avoid Scrimgeour but he is nevertheless
> > mentioned. He probably would want to avoid Umbridge with a
> > vengeance but he nevertheless registers her presence.
> Carol responds:
> There may be a reason, besides Harry's state of mind and a lot of
> other things going on, for JKR to have the narrator neglect to
mention
> Trelawney. Or it may just be like the omission of Snape with
regard to
> the escaped fireworks. If the staff members (not counting
Trelawney,
> who has been fired) are requesting Umbridge's help to do what they
> could easily do themselves, there's no reason to assume that Snape
is
> not among them. Similarly, if the staff (except the disgraced and
> departed Snape) attend the funeral, there's no reason to assume
that
> Trelawney is not among them.
Magpie:
I would offer another reason for Harry not to mention her, which is
just that throughout the book JKR juggles what she wants Harry to
focus on and if she doesn't want to focus on something, he doesn't.
It doesn't always follow internal logic at all. Sometimes it's
external to Harry, like the way Ron's romance with Lavender
conveniently becomes noticable whenever Harry's on a break from his
other concerns, even if it seems to be dragging out long after it
would have ended. Or just kind of surprising, like the way Harry
will obsess about liking Ginny but then barely mention her at all
when he's living with her over Christmas (would most teenagers be so
uninterested in their crush in those circumstances?).
But for a more obvious example, there's one spot in HBP where Harry
has been obsessing about what Malfoy is up to for at least a day and
falls asleep thinking about iirc, then spends the entire morning
outside the RoR with him inside. Then he runs to DADA just in time.
We know Draco is in DADA with him, but Harry neglects to mention
that Malfoy isn't there, or note the troubled reaction Snape would
probably have to Malfoy not being there, or mention that Malfoy ran
in soon after Harry did, and note his appearance etc. It's odd that
Harry's been so focused on him and suddenly drops it, but basically
JKR is shuffling us onto other plot threads she needs to pick up--I
think Ron/Lavender is one of them.
So no, I don't think there's anything odd about Harry not noting
Trelawney no matter what predictions she made, if JKR doesn't want
to remind us of the predictions. She may just think they speak for
themselves and are too long ago to bring up by then.
-m
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