Umbridge: Slytherin?

justcarol67 justcarol67 at yahoo.com
Tue Mar 27 20:21:08 UTC 2007


No: HPFGUIDX 166524

Carol earlier:
<snip>. (Side note: I think Umbridge was also in Slytherin, much as I
hate to say it because I don't want to view Slytherin as the  "evil"
house.)
> 
 
Kemper responded:
> <snip> I disagree with Umbridge in Slytherin.  Umbridge is fiercely
loyal to Fudge and his administration.  She works diligently at
sabotaging Hogwarts system.  She considers using the Crutiatus not
because of a desire to harm but to gain the truth from Harry.  A truth
that she expects Fudge would want to know about.  (I see the Bella as
one to use the curse even after she receives what she believes to be
the truth)  This isn't to say that Umbridge isn't an evil, vile woman,
obviously.  It's to say that evil can be seen with the traits of the
other houses. (I still haven't worked out Wormtail's Gryffindor traits
with his treachery... if it's even there)
>
<snip>

Carol again:
I suppose that Umbridge could be an evil Hufflepuff, but I don't see
her as loyal to the Ministry so much as manipulating it (and Fudge) to
her own advantage. (See my recent "Umbridgitis" at the MoM post). 

In any case, Umbridge knows Lucius Malfoy, and she expects Snape to
side with her (wrong!), possibly because he's not openly rebelling
like McGonagall and Flitwick. She recruits Slytherins and only
Slytherins for her Inquisitorial Squad. And, IIRC, she wears green and
roots for Slytherin at a Quidditch match. (Sorry, I don't have the
reference handy. Does anyone remember it?)

There's also her anti-Half-Breed fixation, which makes me wonder if
she's a Half-Blood ashamed of her Muggle heritage and determined to
look down on part-humans as compensation. (I'd think she was a
Muggle-born with her stupid Alice band and cardigan, but Muggle-borns
probably wouldn't be Sorted into Slytherin.) Possibly, she was a
Slytherin wannabe, but temperamentally and in terms of her version of
the Pure-blood supremacy ethic (actually wizard/human supremacy), I
think she's Slytherin.

Why isn't she a Voldemort supporter? Because, IMO, she can't
manipulate him as she can the weak and pompous Fudge. She wants to be
the power behind the throne, rather like Slughorn, who also likes to
manipulate people without being in charge himself.

At any rate, I don't see any signs of a similar affinity for or
alignment with Hufflepuff. Thoughts, anyone?

Carol, who does not see Slytherin as the evil House since Snape and
Slughorn (next book) are in it but is still fairly sure that Umbridge
was a Slytherin






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