Further Notes on Literary Uses of Magic and Anti-Globalization in Harry Pott

[tbernhard2000]

No: HPFGUIDX 168177

pippin wrote:

> However, when the DA attempts to move beyond defense and take direct
action, it fails spectacularly, and we are told that the mission was
not only a failure but should never have been undertaken at all.

But these are the words of a rather sad old man who will admit the
reasons their mission should not have been undertaken - the Order
itself should have done it, if they'd listened. The words are also
rather a commentary after the fact, after the work has been done and
in retrospect Dumbledore can see other alternatives. His reticence,
his holding on to knowledge, he admits his own mistake.

The mission was great success, in fact. They outed Voldemort, brought
the DE together to be rounded up, forced the hands of the powers
behind the scenes, including the Ministry and the Order, as it were,
the conservative ones that wanted to risk nothing, and those who
wanted to work "from the inside." They were duly rewarded for this
achievement, in house points, just to make it clear.

Pippin:
> ... names of the Order members, many of which are associated with
the Fabian Society. 

dan:
Of course, Rowling has talked about Nesbit a few times as an
influence, as her greatest influence, in fact, though narratively she
holds rather closer to the colder voice of, say, Nabakov (another
acknowledged influence). The Order does indeed represent the Fabian
society. The DA, however, reflects something more passionate and
confrontational. Exactly my point.

dan