Maraurders/he exists
Dana
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Thu May 3 07:00:53 UTC 2007
No: HPFGUIDX 168272
secretkeeper24:
> I'm starting to think Lily really did not know all that much about
> the Snape/James feud. Lupin explains after Harry asks if James
> stopped hexing Snape that "Snape was a special case" when Lupin and
> Sirius are talking to Harry about the SWM scene. Then Sirius
> mentions that "She didn't know too much about it..." I believe you
> could interpret this that generally Lily was never aware of what
> went on between James and Snape.
<snip>
Dana:
I have a different take on Sirius's comment about Lily not knowing
too much about it.
I think it has everything to do with Lily's take on James's inflated
head and James not wanting to risk rubbing her the wrong way by
being in Snape's face when she was around.
Personally I do think she knew perfectly well what the animosity was
between the marauders and Snape and why she uses the
phrase "Snivellus" herself when Snape insults her.
She also says to James, `You're as bad as he is.' (pg 571 OotP) and
then goes on to elaborate her point about James arrogance. Is she
just stating it because Snape called her a "filthy mudblood"? I
don't think so but that is just my take on it of course.
Sirius specifically implies that Snape and James hated each other
from the start and I do not think Lily is to dumb to have picked up
on it (this incident takes place at the end of the 5th year meaning
they had been hating each other for pretty much 5 years that is a
little to long a time for their animosity to go unnoticed, JMHO).
Maybe she couldn't appreciate it this time because she was aware
that part of the reason for James's attack on Snape was him trying
to impress her. Maybe the whole incident had nothing to do with Lily
standing up for Snape but maybe she wanted to make it known to James
that if he wanted to impress her, then this was not the way to go.
She had noticed James playing with the snitch and we know he hadn't
done that before because earlier in the scene Sirius asked James
where he got it and James replied that he nicked it, so to me this
indicates Lily was watching James as much as he was watching her.
Even Harry noticed that he was trying to impress the girls. And if
James hadn't played with the snitch before then Lily mentioning him
playing with it, indicates she saw the whole event unfold before her
eyes and thus that there appeared no reason for James to have a go
at Snape (at least not this time)
Besides Lily doesn't say "what's he *ever* done to you?" but
just "what's he done to you?", which to me can mean precisly that
what's he done to you *this time*. JMHO
Secretkeeper:
> So in general what I am again trying to point out is it is possible
> that Lily didn't know the backstory or the reasons James disliked
> Snape or about Snape's actions, so that is why she asked
> James 'what's he done to you?". She really doesn't know. If this is
> the case then it is still possible for James' answer about 'the
> fact that he just exists' to not be read as literal.
<snip>
Dana:
I think it is extremely unlikely that Lily did not know the
backstory because James and Sirius where not the most inconspicuous
guys around and they did not particularly made attempts to hide
their actions.
JMHO
Dana
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