Further Notes on Literary Uses of Magic and Anti-Globalization( VERY LONG )

[dumbledore11214]

No: HPFGUIDX 168275

>  Alla:
> >
> > Eh, NO. **We** really do not mean that - I at least do not. I
> > thought I gave an example of what to me good Slytherin would look
> > like and really I would require no or very little communication 
with
> > Harry. I guess just the minimum to notice or even his friends
> > telling him about that with great surprise. Let me restate my
> > examples again. For example, good Slytherin would have asked for
> > rematch of the Quidditch match when Harry was injured because it
> > would have not been fair like Cedric did OR good Slytherin in TWT
> > would have done something similar to what Harry did - meaning 
saving
> > somebody else's hostages.
> 
> Magpie:
> Yes, I understood what you meant--though I think that would also 
translate 
> to "cool by Harry and on his side."


Alla:

I wonder how many times I should repeat myself that **NO** it does 
not translate  for me in "cool by Harry and on his side"? :) I mean 
you are free of course to not believe me, but then aren't we taking 
each other words as true sort of by default or our conversations 
sort of become meaningless? When I am telling you - **this** is what 
I mean and you are telling me - no, that is what you Alla, really 
mean? Sorry, I do not mean to sound annoyed, you know I like you 
very much, but I do not think that anybody can read my mind better 
than me :)

I wanted to see some **objectively** good things and something that 
ca be mentioned in passing by Harry or his friends only because 
Harry is POV, you know? But it does not even HAVE to be mentioned by 
them? Teacher can mention say, I do not know that Slytherin saved 
somebody, Harry can hear it, be briefly surprised and **forget all 
about it**, but reader will remember, suggestion would be planted in 
my mind.

I **do** remember you know that Andromeda left her family and 
married Muggleborn. I do remember what Regulus did and Harry did not 
even meet them yet.

I am able to appreciate Slytherin doing a good deed regardless of 
whether such Slytherin ever becomes friend of Harry.


 
> Magpie:
> And that's where I disagree. They are all the things they seem to 
be. 
> They're still not all bad and need to be brought back into the 
school and 
> rehabilitated. The challenge, imo, isn't to just find some kids 
who fit the 
> mould of our heroes and slap a green tie on them. There's no 
challenge in 
> that, and it just avoids the problem that's set up. It avoids the 
whole 
> conflict the story seems to run on. <SNIP>

Alla:

My question is again **who** are they? Forget about Draco Malfoy for 
a second and tell me which Slytherin kids you met that are not bad. 
I understand that certainly realistically there are good kids there, 
they just have to be. But where are they in the book? Whom else do 
we meet but DE kids?