Snape as Neville's teacher and noble sadist

dumbledore11214 dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Mon May 7 00:01:43 UTC 2007


No: HPFGUIDX 168388


> > Alla:
> > 
> > I certainly think that Snape has a choice whether to show 
sadistic 
> > feelings or not, that is why no, sorry not buying his nobility. 
I do 
> > not think that Snape cannot control himself, I mean if he gets 
his 
> > kick of imagining innocent kids suffer, go to dungeons and do it 
> > there. 
> 
> Pippin:
> Oh, I see. You'd be okay with Snape if he had to hide what he is?
> Like Lupin?   If I'm representing your position correctly,  I 
don't think 
> JKR is with you there.

Alla:

Well, Lupin is forced to hide **his illness**, not **what he is** as 
far as I am concerned, I do not think he should. Hopefully WW will 
change enough eventually. I will not only be Okay with Snape hiding 
his sadistic impulses, but would be demanding that. IMHO of course.


Pippin: 
>  Anyway, if Snape was made to feel once again that he is not 
welcome 
> in decent society, despite that his students have a better than 
average 
> pass rate and that he conducts himself as well on the whole as 
other 
> respected teachers do, it would be hard to blame him if he did go 
> back to the DE's. At least they wouldn't make him feel like a 
freak.

Alla:

Yeah, that is where we disagree - I do not believe that Snape 
conducts himself as decent teachers do, far from it. I think there 
are teachers who conduct themselves worse, but there are certainly 
teachers IMO who conduct themselves much better than he is IMO. I 
think he would do good to take some pointers from Lupin, that is if 
Hogwarts ever allows him to go back to teaching. Hopefully not, if 
you ask me.

Again, IMO.


 
> Alla: 
> > Besides, maybe Snape sees with what he does **already** he 
frightens 
> > these kids enough - he is Neville's boggart, etc, so why do 
> > something else if he is getting his kicks already?
> > 
> 
> Pippin:
> So then, he's not sadistic? Because if he's satisfied with the same
> amount of distress from the kids as the other teachers, then he's
> no more abnormal than they are.

Alla:

LOL, Greek sophists would have been proud to have you as student, 
Pippin. But no, what I meant was that Snape may not feel a need to 
exercise his sadism to full strength, to exhaust himself, if he gets 
a desired effect as is.

IMO,

Alla





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