Something Odds in Hogwarts

Steve bboyminn at yahoo.com
Wed May 9 05:50:26 UTC 2007


No: HPFGUIDX 168459

---  "Ken Hutchinson" <klhutch at ...> wrote:
>
> ---  Nabilah Adani <seiryu_diggory@> wrote:
> >
> > Everybody knows that we can't Apparate or Disapparate
> > in Hogwarts. But... have you ever thought, why does
> > the fairy-house such as Dobby Apparate or Disapparate
> > in Hogwarts? What do you think about this?
> > 

> Ken:
> 
> It is never mentioned that the elves are using portkeys 
> and you often hear a *crack* when they appear and 
> disappear so I think they are apparating.

bboyminn:

I don't think Nabilah /literally/ meant 'portkeys', I
think the implication was portkey-ish style magic. 
Simply implying that the 'style' of magic used by
Elves is different than Wizard magic.

Bruce confirms this in this thread by mentioning that
JKR said that Elves use different magic than wizards.

For example, we see that Elves are able to transport
food from the kitchens to the House Tables. How is that
different than Apparation or Apparation-style magic?
Something very real disappears from one place and
reappears in another, sounds exactly like Appration,
but of course, it is not. 

Further, we do not know that Dobby apparated into or
out of Hogwarts, he may have done the Elvin equivalent
within the boundaries of Hogwarts. He may have 
transported to another part of the castle and walk to 
the front gate and left. We know Dobby disappeared, but
that is all we know.

So, Dobby is not using Apparation Magic when he disappears.
He is using some Elfin functional equivalent, but not
literally Apparation itself.

> Ken:
> ...
> 
> What I think about this is that the vaunted security
> of Hogwarts has more holes in it than Windoze. ...
> 
> House elves in general are a perfect fifth column for
> one side or the other to use in DH. ...

bboyminn:

On both these points I agree. For someone willing to look
closely, Hogwarts does have some gapping size holes. Like
the blocked tunnel behind the mirror. How hard would it
be to unblock the tunnel? Also, the Vanishing Cabinet
was a colossal hole. Didn't anybody on the staff bother
to talk to Montague? If they had, they would have known
about the cabinet and DE would never have gotten into
the castle by that means. Note Charlie's friends had no
problem flying in to pick up Norbert. Of course that
was early on, and security was probably not as strict
then.

Also, I've been convinced for a long time that the Elves
are going to play a big part, or at least some part, in 
the fight against Voldemort, and I've been saying it
for years. I speculate that DE's and Voldie will 
temporarily take over Hogwarts. With Dumbledore gone, it
is just to nice a strategic target to pass up. He who 
holds the school, holds the wizard world. I suspect it
will be up to Harry and his friend who are not going 
back to school, plus a little inside help, to recapture
the school again. Though I'm not convinced this will be
the final Harry/Voldemort battle. 

For what it's worth.

Steve/bboyminn





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