Snape as Neville's teacher / JKR's sexy men roll call

[Dana]

No: HPFGUIDX 168503

Shaun:
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> It seems to me that the people who expect a 100% success rate as 
the only measure of being a good 
> teacher they will contemplate, are those who want to condemn the 
teaching of Severus 
> Snape. They are the people who keep raising specific examples of 
his supposed failures with 
> individual students as if they prove he's a bad teacher.
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Dana:
The problem is this argument is used both ways because according to 
many his *individual* treatment of Neville and Harry IS what is 
claimed to be Snape success as a teacher. They claim Snape was 
successful on an individual level for treating these students bad and 
making them succeed because of it. 

You would be right if Snape treated all students in the same way and 
then some fail and some succeed because of that but that is not how 
Snape behaves. He treats some students well and he bullies others so 
if Snape is incapable of treating his students nice then why is he 
praising Draco while not Hermione? Why is he treating Neville like a 
vermin, fouling his classroom while being nice to Grabbe and Goyle? 
Why does he treat Harry as someone that must be arrogant because of 
his status as the boy who lives, while not correcting Draco who 
expresses more arrogance in his presents then Harry ever did and even 
having more responsibility over Draco as his Head of House. Draco is 
even more at risk then Harry is because Snape knows his daddy is a DE 
and therefore Draco is more at risk to stray into the wrong path then 
Harry? 

And if Snape is really against LV then shouldn't he be glad Harry 
might be his one ticket out? No, he constantly tells Harry he is 
nothing special and nothing important and he even wonders why the 
Dark Lord even thinks he is. And most of the time he expresses this 
outside of his classroom because it has nothing to do with him being 
a teacher but everything to do with his hatred for James and Sirius 
and them always stealing his glory and now Harry does too. He hates 
all three of them because according to Snape it is their fault he 
even is in this mess. If James had not saved him and he did not owe 
him a debt because of it, he would not have blinked twice about LV 
killing the Potters. 

My problem with calling Snape a good teacher has everything to do 
with his personal vendetta's, he is working out in his classroom and 
are not part of his teaching methods but are part of Snape's 
personality and his personal convictions. I wouldn't even be 
surprised that he treats Hermione bad because she is a muggleborn, 
because essentially Hermione is the same kind of student Snape was 
(but with a moral compass working properly while that of Snape has 
always pointed in all direction but the right one), she wants to be 
the best in everything she does and so does Snape. So if Snape really 
knows how to read his students then he should be delighted with 
Hermione's will to succeed but he doesn't, he is working against her 
at ever opportunity he got. That is what makes Snape a horrible 
teacher because to him teaching is not his main priority; it's just 
killing time at the expense of his students. And if you really think 
Snape is a good teacher then help me understand what Snape teaching 
methods have to do with telling Hermione "he sees no difference" 
about her enlarged teeth, in front of other students? Hermione does 
not need this so-called individual re-enforcement to do well in 
potions and she certainly does not deserve this kind of treatment as 
a student in his potions class.  

His extraordinary high NEWT level submission requirement is another 
example he does not care about his students because he doesn't want 
to waste time with those he has to guide through this level, he only 
wants those that can do it on their own. He doesn't care about his 
student's future because if he did then he would know that most 
students would never have passed into his NEWT class while potions is 
essential to the future of most. If he really cared then he would not 
have such high requirements that only a few could reach. If there 
hadn't been a change of teacher's in the 6th year then both Ron and 
Harry could have kissed their future of becoming an auror goodbye and 
this while some people claim that Snape individual treatment of Harry 
was what got him through or even claim that Snape had a high success 
rate in making his students pass but then to kill it right then and 
there by eliminating all that didn't do good enough according to his 
personal standards and we see that no other teachers has such high 
requirements and I am sorry but why does Snape consider his potions 
class to be only for the elite? What makes his class so much more 
important that the average student, with just an Exceeding 
Expectations on his OWL, not good enough for his class. Because Snape 
doesn't care about teaching but only cares about his own status and 
if he can make all his students pass NEWT level without much effort 
it makes him look like a better teacher then the rest of those 
losers.   

JHMO

Dana