Snape as Neville's teacher / JKR's sexy men roll call

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No: HPFGUIDX 168505

Pippin:
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> I saw a Cathy comic strip  the other day that about sums it up.
> Cathy's mom made an innocuous comment and  Cathy
> responded with a barrage of defensive self-deprecation. When
> Irving bewilderedly asked what brought that on,  Cathy says, "You 
> heard the last twenty seconds. I heard the last twenty years." 
> 
> That's *exactly* what I see going on between Harry and Snape.
> On that first day of class, Snape saw seven years of James in 
> everything that Harry did. In everything Snape did, Harry saw 
> ten years of  the kiddie-lit/cartoon villains whom Snape so 
> much resembles, down to the hooked nose and sarcastic
> manner.

Alla:

I see no support that Harry saw a villain in Snape until Snape 
attacked him, even despite him thinking that Snape made his scar 
hurt. I **still** hear that remark of Snape having a gift to keep 
class quiet, which to me can only be read as positive, as openness, 
as being ready to like the teacher.

While I personally see in "you and your filfy father" an iron clad 
support ( to me of course) that Snape saw James and only James in 
Harry.

I do wonder, can it be that Harry had an open enough mind to Snape 
and Snape did not? Or does it just **have to be** that Harry is 
guilty in misjudging Snape as well? It sure diminishes Snape 
responsibility as I see it, but I see no support for that. IMO of 
course.


Pippin:
> IMO, it's a case of mistaken identity, one of so many in the books. 
> Harry has the misfortune to resemble James. Snape's subconscious 
> identifies Harry as James, who persecuted Snape for years. 

Alla:

Yeah, he does have that misfortune. As an aside, I just cannot agree 
with "persecuted for years" stated as fact. But IMO of course.

Pippin:
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> Meanwhile Harry's subconscious  tells him Snape would like
> nothing better than to ruin Harry's life, although Dumbledore
> tells him that he's actually been working very hard to save it.

Alla:

The key difference for me is of course that Harry's subconscious 
**only** tells him that after Snape did something to provoke it IMO. 
I personally find it amasing that after being told staff about 
Slytherins, he is still interested in positive way. I think he was 
much more open than could be expected. But after that lesson? 


Pippin: 
> Snape had no business to blame Harry for Neville's accident. But
> I suspect he figured Neville would get it right since Neville's 
parents
> were both Aurors and therefore skilled at potions. He probably
> wasn't paying attention for once, blamed himself for the accident
> and immediately thought of a reason to blame Harry instead. Now
> who does that sound like?

Alla:

Oh I don't know ;) Snape blaming himself? Like ever?