Snape as Neville's teacher / JKR's sexy men roll call
Dana
ida3 at planet.nl
Sat May 12 13:43:00 UTC 2007
No: HPFGUIDX 168600
houyhnhnm:
> There are a couple of times when Harry has the urge to
> bite Dumbledore. Harry was apparently experiencing
> Nagini's feelings as she was being possessed by Voldemort
> at the same time that Voldemort was invading Harry's mind.
Dana:
Could you point out where Harry has the urge to bite Dumbledore more
then once? There is only one incident of that and that was the night
LV realised Harry was present in his mind when he possessed Nagini in
the bite incident with Arthur.
houyhnhnm:
> Harry experienced the snake's feelings. We don't know
> what Voldemort's subjective experience was. The closest
> to anything that could be considered canon about what is
> going on in Tommy's head comes from Dumbledore, who seems
> to understand him in the way that Sherlock Holmes understood
> the workings of Moriarty's mind.
Dana:
Interesting because what DD tells about Snape's actions are taken as
truth when it is second hand information as well.
It doesn't matter what Voldemort's subjective experience was because
he would not have been able to do anything without Harry's scar
hurting and thus he can't witness things from Harry's POV without
Harry feeling his presents.
houyhnhnm:
> Why would Voldemort be surprised to see Dumbldore if he
> came on Snape's word? You mean Snape told Voldemort that
> he had alerted the Order, but neglected to mention that
> Dumbldore was right behind them. I think Snape would be
> in a lot of trouble.
I already answered this but for arguments sake. Snape is the only one
not present at the DoM that doesn't know when DD arrived or even that
DD knows things are taking place at the DoM. Snape only knows that DD
was expected at HQ nothing more and if LV witnessed everything from
Harry's POV to see the plan had gone sour then he would have known DD
was there rounding up his DE's and thus nothing LV could have done
about it.
houyhnhnm:
> There is no satisfactory explanation for Voldemort's
> appearance at that particular time (perhaps he was there
> all along), but a Snape connection seems the least likely
> scenario to me.
If LV was there all along then he would not have let it come to what
actually happened because the moment the Order members arrived he
would have taken control over the situation. The DE were winning at
that particular moment and the prophecy wasn't lost, yet.
So I think it is very unlikely that LV just took a seat and let
months of planning go to waste if he 1) witnessed everything to
Harry's eyes 2) was already there. The man is not that patient.
3) his DE's were a bit busy to notify him of the status of events.
And to me that leaves Snape notifying LV of sending the Order and
because the DE's hadn't reported back in it was a pretty sure fact
they messed it up.
JHMO
Dana
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