Why did JKR not explore H/Hr as canon?

phoenixgod2000 jmrazo at hotmail.com
Tue May 15 02:51:48 UTC 2007


No: HPFGUIDX 168736

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Ken Hutchinson" <klhutch at ...>
wrote:

> No, she doesn't show it and I guess that is the problem for those of
> you who hate the "new" Ginny. She doesn't show it *because Harry
> doesn't notice it*. 

I've heard this point from a number of people and I hate that
explanation. It isn't some clever literary trick, it's just bad
writing.  When you are writing a multi-volume story you need to lay
the foundation for different aspects of the story, you can't just
spring them on the reader fully formed and expect them to buy it. 
Even if the main character is supposed to miss it, the reader
shouldn't. this isn't a movie or tv show. we don't have any body
language or looks that we can read, we just have to go on what's
there. And what's there for Ginny just doesn't fit.  

Ginny's personality is straight out of the blue. The whole 'she never
shuts up' thing isn't an indication of some hidden strength of
character--its a description that could mean just about anything. you
could describe Colin Creevy as someone who never shuts up as well and
it would have be perfectly justified.  

>It is there, very subtly, all along. 

Really, where was the subtle hints that she liked Quiddich and was a
good rider?  if they were there, why did we need Hermione, the
exposition Fairy to tell us she stole brooms out of the shed (yeah,
'cause that's realistic) to learn how to ride?

There is not a single indication before book five Ginny is even the
slightest bit sports inclined. She's horrified by the violence of the
game at the Quiddich world cup and fell asleep during the group talk
about the game afterwards.


Harry doesn't seem to really
> notice girls at all until page 388 of GOF (US pb ed); when he needs to
> get a date for the Yule Ball.


Not true. I got Harry's crush on Cho from back in the third book.  

I think Ginny comes across incredibly poorly in books five and six. 
The reason is she dumps Dean is just plain ugly and the way she and
Harry liplock in front of him is very cruel.

She's mean to Fleur for no reason and her supposed jokes at the girl's
expense were anything but actually amusing.

She is portrayed as a defender Luna, but calls her loony behind her back.

She isn't feisty, she's just plain rude and bullying.

Harry's feelings for her were characterized by the highly romantic
chest monster

I read a theory that said Harry was under the influence of a love
potion in the HBP and I can almost buy it. Harry and Cho were such a
masterful train wreck and there are so many other great couples in the
story that I can't believe that JKR would so drop the ball on the
romance of the title character. I don't think romance is going to be
one of the cornerstones of the story but I don't think that gives it
license to be shoddy either.

Ginny is literally the least interesting choice she could have made
for Harry's LI--which I could have accept had it been written well.
But it just isn't.

Phoenixgod2000, who hates Ginny with the fire of a million exploding
suns  (bonus points if you get the reference)





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