LV's reasons for showing at the DoM/Slughorn's favoritism

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Dana: > So to me the possibility of Snape informing  LV, he notified the 
Order > and the DEs not having reported back in, is in my  opinion the reason > LV 
came to the DoM and only when he arrives there, does  he find out > that 
nothing can be saved because the prophecy is lost and when  DD > shows up the only 
thing he is left to do is fight him and make >  another attempt on Harry's 
life because he knows he can't win from DD > and  save any of his DEs besides 
Bella and if he had know all of that > before he  entered the DoM then he 
wouldn't have come and expose > himself because now  he lost his advantage with that 
action too and as > we see he won nothing by  coming there. And maybe it is 
just my > opinion but LV is not that stupid, so  to me something entirely > out
side of Harry's POV brought LV to the DoM and  my theory still > stands until 
proven otherwise by DH (or canon I overlooked  which does > not include the 
above) 
 
 
Nikkalmati
 
I have some trouble following your theory, but as I  understand it, I have 
problems with the attribution of the execution of any part  of the plan to 
Snape.  First, if Snape was expected to call in the  Order, but late - he messed up 
big time.  An efficient Lucius would perhaps  have gathered in the Prophecy 
and the kids say 15 minutes after they arrived at  the MOM.  How long do you 
think the kids delayed the DEs?  The  resistance might have taken another 15 or 
20 min.  It took between 4 and 6  house (my guess) for Harry and Co. to get to 
London.  It would take about  an hour for the Order to assemble, discuss and 
get to the MOM.  Snape cut  it way too close, if he intended Lucius to get 
away, and would certainly have  been blamed.  Notice Narcissa, not to mention 
Bella, says nothing at  Spinner's End about Snape getting her husband captured.  
Second, he  would surly have been killed for not mentioning that DD was 
coming.   The Order gathered at the Headquarters and decided not to wait for DD who 
was  delayed (perhaps he was coming from further away).  Snape knew DD was  
following the Order because he told SB to wait for DD to arrive at  
Headquarters. If he had talked to LV, he could not have omitted this  important 
information and gotten away with it.  Third, you are making a lot  of assumptions to 
explain how SS could know Harry had left for the  MOM.  IMHO he could not have 
known Harry went into the forest until  the Slytherins told him.  They may have 
seen the DA members  running that way after they escaped.  He could not have 
seen Harry take off  on the Threstrals unless he had been watching out a window 
of Hogwarts for them  and why would he do that?  Leaving by Threstral was 
probably the most  unlikely way Harry could leave.  Therefore, he could not have 
known when  Harry would arrive in London, because he could not be sure of the 
time he left  Hogwarts.
 
Nikkalmati       
 
 
>Magpie: See, this is what I referred to in my  other post. I'm truly 
surprised to see Slughorn defended this way given the way  he's introduced. The man 
says flat-out that it's surprising that a Muggle-born  is so good when we know 
it is canon that there's no difference in magical talent  between Wizards 
based on blood purity. That's a bigoted myth. It's not just  Hermione and Lily 
that counter it either--where have we seen any evidence of  difference in talent 
if the person is Muggleborn? 
 
Nikkalmati
 
I see it as a myth that Slughorn believes the pureblood  claptrap.  The point 
of comparison here is Muggles vs. Wizards, not  Purebloods vs. Muggleborn 
wizards.  Muggles rarely have magical talent of  any kind.  Most wizard born 
children have some magical talent.  Magic  is not evenly distributed throughout 
the human race.  It is surprising to  find a Muggleborn with any magical talent. 
 It is doubly surprising that  one has outstanding talent.    (BTW Appaloosas 
can't jump worth a  darn, in most cases)
 
 >Magpie   Not to mention, we see  how Slughorn judges students anyway, so 
it's not like he's an objective judge of  how well students usually do. 
 
Nikkalmati
 
Certainly, he is an elitist, not a bigot.  
 
Nikkalmati




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