On the perfection of moral virtues

horridporrid03 horridporrid03 at yahoo.com
Thu May 17 20:48:48 UTC 2007


No: HPFGUIDX 168895

> >>Pippin:
> <snip>
> Reading over carefully, it seems that what put Ron
> off his game was his fellow Gryffindors, not Harry.
> They thought that Harry put too many of his
> own year on the team and they were muttering...
> <snip>
> I don't think this is just filler, because I think JKR has to get
> Harry to the point where he can forgive an enemy, and we're
> not going to believe that if he can't even show some patience
> and understanding to his friends. It had to be something that
> Ron's done before so that we can be sure that Harry is not
> showing blind faith in his friend as the Gryffindors think 
> (and Ron seems to fear.)

Betsy Hp:
I still think of it as filler in that it's sloppy.  The idea that the 
Gryffindor's are suspicious of the number of team members from 
Harry's own year seems like "make worry" on JKR's part.  Yes, Harry 
has two people and that's including himself, from his year on the 
team.  *This* is enough to cause predictions of doom and gloom from 
his fellow housemates?  

I do understand what you say JKR was trying to do or show with this 
side story.  I just think she kind of faked it, forcing Ron into an 
issue the readers had *just* seen him outgrow. The mechanics of her 
story are showing through, IOWs.

> >>Pippin:
> The morals are pointed by Dumbledore, Arthur, McGonagall and
> Sirius -- all bona fide good guys, people whom Harry respects,
> whose own shortcomings are pointed out in the text. Harry is
> explicitly  aware that Sirius doesn't practice what he preaches, for
> example. Kids are pretty good at recognizing hypocrisy. I don't
> think JKR believes she needs to point it out every time  it happens,
> just in case somebody missed it. 

Betsy Hp:
But my worry is that it's *JKR* who's missing it.

Betsy Hp





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