Ron and Hermione supporting Harry WAS: Re: GoF fight between Harry and Ron

[hickengruendler]

No: HPFGUIDX 168965

 
> Alla:
> 
> Well, I guess I believe that they did not support Harry enough when 
> they should have been. Since we know that it turned out to be not a 
> waste of time at all, but quite the contrary. IMO disaster could 
> have been averted had people believed Harry that Malfoy was up to 
> something.

Hickengruendler:

Not really. Dumbledore knew from the beginning that Malfoy was up to 
something, and nothing changed, because he didn't want Malfoy to know 
that he knew. Similarly, after Harry told McGonagall about his 
suspicion after the Katie incident, McGonagall may have not really 
believed him (it's hard to tell), but nonetheless she went straight 
to Dumbledore with and told him about Harry's suspicion. So 
ultimately Dumbledore, (who was the victim of disaster you meant, I 
assume) had all the informations Harry had as well, and possibly 
more. He just decided not to act on them. Therefore would have made 
really a difference, if Ron and Hermione had believed Harry simply 
because of his hunches? 
 
Alla:

> Making Harry a slave owner erm... elf owner, that was wierd too 
IMO, 
> as an aside.

Hickengruendler:

Yeah, but what else could he have done? He could not have freed 
Kreacher. He had to keep him. I hope he sets him free at the end of 
book 7.
 
 
Alla:

> I think that I am sticking with JKR needing nobody listen to Harry 
> and let Malfoy to continue assasination attempts for story needs.
> 
> I think it again sacrifices Ron and Hermione loyalty ( not 
> completely but IMO still does) for plot.
> 
 
Hickengruendler:

I find this a bit extreme. It's not, that they weren't loyal to him, 
they just were unsure of his accusation. And they still helped him in 
the end watching over Draco. I mean, there's a huge difference 
between disloyalty and simply second-guessing someone's wildest 
theories. ;-) I mean, they did have a point, when they said Malfoy 
wasn't the only one visiting Borgin and Burkes. That said, it did get 
really annoying, when they tried other explanations for *everything*. 
(Other people were in Borgin and Burkes as well, *and* Malfoy 
probably just screaned in Madam Malkin's because of the needle *and* 
he was just trying to impress Pansy Parkinson, etc.). One or two 
other explanations are understandable, but when the hints got more 
and more, someone should have smelt the rat as well.  
 
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