SHIP: Re: My $.02 on the ships in the book :-)

[honeypi28]

No: HPFGUIDX 169054

Don:
> > I'll still hang my hat on the last chapter of the last book (6), 
> where 
> > Ginny tells Harry that she "knows" he wouldn't be happy unless he was 
> > fighting Voldemort. Either JKR and her editor(s)did a sloppy job 
> > letting this comment get into print (as it goes against both the 
> truth 
> > and what someone who knows the "real" Harry would say), or Ginny is 
> > still an immature girl who wants to project her idea of what 
> > Harry "should" be onto who he really is.

Jo S:
> I'm confused by this statement.  Do you mean that you interpreted that 
> statement of Ginny's at Dumbledore's funeral literally?  As in, she 
> actually is saying that "hunting Voldemort" (the actual quote) makes 
> Harry "happy" (ie, joyful, light-hearted)?  I confess that it's never 
> even occured to me that anyone would interpret her statement this way.  
> My reading was that she'd been expecting this sort of gesture from 
> Harry for some time because she knows that he'll never be able to rest, 
> or get on with his life while Voldemort is still out there.  In effect, 
> she's saying that the reason she likes him is because he is who he is.
> 
> Please forgive me if I'm misunderstanding what you are saying, but I 
> don't see where anything in that sentence "goes against both the truth 
> and what someone who knows the 'real' Harry would say."
 
honeypi:
I believe it does go against the "truth and what someone who know the 'real' Harry would 
say" when 
the words are taken at face value.  JKR could easily have written the scene differently if she 
meant to express Ginny's understanding of Harry's feelings more accurately.  She says (not 
implies - says) that Harry won't be happy unless he's hunting LV.  Ginny is wrong.  Harry 
does not take pleasure in hunting LV, period.   Ginny also reveals (as if we didn't already 
know) that this may be why she likes Harry so much.  Which might mean she likes that 
Harry is willing to do what he must; or, it could mean she is still enthralled with Heroic 
Harry, as she has been from the very beginning.  If she means to say the reason she may 
like Harry so much is because he is happy to hunt LV (which is the literal meaning of what 
she has said) then it is not the 'real' Harry (Just Harry) that she wants.

Of course, if we decide instead to interpret away from the words actually expressed on the 
page, we could read a number of different meanings into the moment. I'm not suggesting 
that Ginny doesn't genuinely care for Harry, I just don't know if it's for the right reasons.  
The absence of really meaningful conversations between Harry and Ginny has made it 
difficult for me to embrace the relationship  ... and Harry's 'monster' was just a bit 
troubling.  I hope there will be more depth developed between them if Harry/Ginny is to 
be the final pairing for our hero, because as of HPB, their romantic connection, seems to 
me, superficial. 

Don:
>Harry didn't want Hermione and Ron to horcrux hunt, but 
> Hermione said that she was already a target and that there was no way 
> she wasn't going to be by his side.

Pippin:
>If Harry had the same sort of feelings about Hermione that he does
>about Ginny, he wouldn't have let her come with him, and if she
>did, it would be a hindrance. Harry had to leave a wounded 
>Hermione behind in order to protect the prophecy and Ginny
>knows that. He doesn't want to have to make that kind of 
>a choice about her. 

honeypi:
It will be impossible to convince me that Harry is more concerned about Ginny's safety 
than he is about Hermione's.  Harry's preference in general is to go it alone because he 
does not want to risk ANYONE's life.  Ginny's reaction is not consistent with her spunky 
nature, but it is consistent with her willingness to give in to Harry (she seems to take his 
side in everything - did they every disagree about anything?)  Hermione, on the other 
hand, does exactly what she always does - she tries protect Harry, be by his side through 
all the worst, even if she has to fight with him to do so.  Harry folds because he knows well 
enough that Hermione (and Ron,too) will not yield - not because he loves them less or 
differently. 

Honeypi