On the perfection of moral virtues--Snape, the shack, and unilateral authority
leslie41
leslie41 at yahoo.com
Mon May 21 22:02:56 UTC 2007
No: HPFGUIDX 169074
Alla:
> All that I am questioning is your assertion that Snape would have
> been hailed a hero for **killing** Sirius Black. Let me say it
> again - **not** for capturing Sirius Black. We all know that Snape
> almost got his Order of Merlin for that. So, sure for that - for
> **capturing** he will be a hero.
Leslie:
Do you think Snape would be hailed as a hero for killing Voldemort?
Do you think Harry would? Sirius is not of that order, of course, but
he is a known dangerous criminal, perceived by everyone as a crazed,
insane murderer of thirteen people, Muggle and wizard. Black's
actions in Hogwarts don't seem to undermine that judgement, either.
He's not just thought to be a killer, he's believed to be *crazy*,
and described as such. Voldemort described as more rational.
Alla:
> So, my conjecture is that since it is not specifically said that
> wizarding population was allowed to use lethal force, they would be
> punished for using it against Sirius Black same way as against any
> other person.
Leslie:
Well, no one speaks of "capturing" Voldemort, do they? The
understanding is that Voldemort will be *killed*. Obliterated. The
wizarding population is obviously allowed to use deadly force against
him. At the end of HBP, Harry himself specifically states: "I'm the
one who's going to kill him." Then Harry also specifically drops a
very clear hint that if Severus Snape shows up, he's going to kill
him as well.
So yes, I would assume that deadly force, under the right
circumstances, is acceptable.
> Alla:
> So, again, why are you ( generic you) so sure that he will be
> called a hero instead of criminal if he kills Sirius Black?
Leslie:
For the same reason that Harry would be called a hero for killing
Voldemort. Again, the two "villains" are not of the same order, but
they're both "guilty" of multiple murders, and Black is believed to
be Voldemort's servant.
Now, of course when a wizard kills someone, just like when a police
officer kills a criminal, there is certain to be some sort of
inquiry. But it's stretching things a bit, I think, to suggest that
there's even a remote possibility that Snape would end up in Azkaban
for killing a known insane murderer who was advancing on him with
rage in his eyes and a clear intent to do harm.
It just seems bending sense a bit to believe that.
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