Responses to Marietta (was: Misc. responses, some quite old)
sistermagpie
sistermagpie at earthlink.net
Thu May 24 14:41:02 UTC 2007
No: HPFGUIDX 169205
> > Charles:
> > Last but not least, IMNSHO, Marietta got what she deserved. It
was
> > not over the top, nor overly cruel. She betrayed the DA. Not
only was
> > it a broken promise, but she knew that she was going to get many
of
> > her friends expelled and possibly criminally prosecuted by what
she
> > knows is an unjust government. AFAIC, having the word "sneak"
across
> > her face is a light punishment, considering what could have
happened
> > to the rest of the DA.
>
> Random832:
> This issue is a key disconnect between people who like Hermione (or
> are indifferent) and people who go out of their way to find a
reason
> to dislike her. In discussions of this, everyone goes on and on
about
> how Marietta is "Permanently Disfigured" etc - when really - it's
just
> a word. on her face. Like how in Snow Crash, Raven has "Poor
Impulse
> Control" on his face, Marietta has "Sneak" on hers.
Magpie:
I think it's unfair to claim that those who disagree with someone
else must be "looking for a reason" to dislike Hermione. (I could
just as easily say that those who think this is okay are just
looking for a reason to excuse Hermione of anything--and that would
be just as wrong. You don't know what's in my head and can't say my
reaction is less honest than yours.) That isn't the case at all, in
my experience, anyway. It's not a disconnect between people who hate
Hermione and everyone else, it's a disconnect between those who like
the SNEAK hex and think it's deserved and those who find it
disturbing and OTT given the situation.
I am truly disturbed by Marietta still walking around with word on
her face in pustules--and who cares if it's "just a word??" Who
wants a word written on their face in oozing pustules? Or even a
single pustule? As far as we know she is permenantly disfigured. I
don't think that's an exaggeration. It just seems like the truth.
Marking people in this way used to be, iirc, a common form of
barbaric punishment. If it was no big deal there would be no reason
to do it. It actually is an act I would normally expect to be the
kind of act that defined the bad guys in a story.
> > Potioncat:
> > Actually, I think it's the other way around. I think JKR is
saying that
> > some acts are Dark regardless of the intention and that those
Dark Arts
> > have a negative effect on the person performing them.
>
> Random832:
> Except that the voice she's saying it with is that of the
ministry -
> not really the right place to put it if she's actually intending to
> say that this is a position to be agreed with.
Magpie:
Isn't she also saying in with Dumbledore and McGonagall? One of the
first things she says to him is that he's "too noble" to use the
same magic as Voldemort, and certainly things like Horcruxes don't
seem like they'd be considered good in any situation.
-m
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