Marietta

[justcarol67]

No: HPFGUIDX 169279

Eggplant wrote:> 
> She ratted them out to someone more than willing to commit torture
and murder. This is not a playground argument, this is life and death.
> 
> > I still find it over the top. 
> 
> In a real world situation a bullet in the brain would not have been
> over the top.

Carol responds:

But how could Marietta know that Umbridge was willing to "commit
torture and murder"? She couldn't know about Harry's detentions, which
he kept quiet even from Dumbledore, nor could she haave known that
Umbridge tried to use Veritaserum on him. She had not yet tried to
Crucio Harry, which was not done in Marietta's presence, anyway, nor
had she yet confessed to sending the Dementors, which, I'm guessing is
what you mean by "murder."

At most, she could have gotten her fellow students expelled, and since
DD was still at Hogwarts, that wouldn't have, and didn't, happen,
though I concede that she was willing to have it happen. (She may have
thought that they deserved it for breaking the rules and opposing the
MoM. She was, after all, indoctrinated. Maybe she even believed that
Umbridge was a kind-hearted woman who was trying to protect the
students and improve the system at Hogwarts, as she claimed.

I understand your dislike of Marietta and your feeling that she
deserved her punishment, but it's not fair to credit her with
knowledge that she could not possibly have, including proof of
Voldemort's return, which is not really what the DA was about for most
of its members, anyway. (Most of them wanted to learn DADA to pass
their OWLs.) It wasn't a matter of life and death. At most, it was a
matter of finishing their education. (And it was never that, really.
Imagine Dumbledore permanently ousted by Umbridge. Impossible.)

Carol, unaware of any school in the world that would put a bullet
through a student's brain for any reason whatever