Wolfsbane Dosing (was: Neville/Wolfsbane/Fluffy/Filk/Snape/Time Travel)
jmwcfo
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Tue May 29 21:16:26 UTC 2007
No: HPFGUIDX 169477
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, Bart Lidofsky <bartl at ...> wrote:
>
> JW:
> >Continuously boiling the potion might keep it fresh, but the
> >resultant evaporation of volatile ingredients (as evidenced by the
> >smoke) would quickly change the proportion of the mixture,
presumably
> >rendering it ineffective, or even dangerous.
>
> Bart:
> You are making an assumption, here, that the volatile ingredients
have already boiled off, and that the potion is a solution, rather
than a unified substance that boils off evenly. Or, it could be that
the only volatile ingredient is water, and that the dosage doesn't
have to be that exact (although one may speculate that, if one COULD
control the dosage exactly, it would allow Lupin to actually do
useful things in wolf form, rather than just resting).
> Bart
>
JW:
Quite the opposite, Bart. The volatile and semi-volatile chemicals
would boil off over extended simmering, and would not necessarily
effect the first day's dosage.
Please note that the potion is SMOKING. Smoke is a mixture (as are
most if not all potions we have seen), not a solution. Smoke
comprises a particulate, which is a solid, suspended (mixed, not
dissolved) in a gas, typically water vapor. As the boiling
continues, the proportion of the remaining non-volatized liquid
mixture is subject to change as volatized ingredients boil off.
Thus, the second day's potion may have a different proportion of
ingredients than the first day, raising the issue of possible
inefficacy.
If the only volatile ingredient were water, you would NOT have SMOKE,
you would have STEAM, which is water vapor without suspended
particulates. Of course, the result would be even WORSE in this
case. If the so-called "smoke" were actually steam (water vapor),
leaving everything else in the cauldron, then over time the remaining
mixture would thicken into a syrup, goo, sludge, or a caked and
partially crystallized solid.
For example, try gently simmering salt water (a solution, not a
mixture, in this case) over an extended period. You will see steam,
which is the water vapor that is boiling off. If you test the
salinity of the remaining liquid, you would see that it consistently
increases, because the dissolved salt is relatively non-volatile. As
the simmering continues, you would observe that the fluid volume
decreases measurably. Finally, you would wind up with a dry
cauldron, errr... pot, with only caked or semicrystaline salt on the
bottom and sides.
Another illustration of this is growing crystals of salt, sugar,
alum, and other simple materials at home. IIRC, this is often
included in middle-school science courses. I have also made tiny
quantities of aspirin (acetylsalicylic acid) in a chemistry lab using
a similar technique.
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