On Children and the "Other" (was:Re: On the perfection of moral virtues)
pippin_999
foxmoth at qnet.com
Wed May 30 00:50:27 UTC 2007
No: HPFGUIDX 169488
> > >>lizzyben04:
> > <snip>
> > To me, it seems like the books give lip-service to "tolerance"
> > and "unity" while actually embodying the opposite.
> > <snip>
>
> Betsy Hp:
> I've had the very same worries, lizzyben04. And I usually look to
> Pippin to pull me back from the depths of despair. (Though she may
> not realize I do so. <g>) <snip JKR quote>
Pippin:
Why, thank you! It's nice to be appreciated :)
Here's another JKR quote I found enlightening:
Interviewer:
One of Goblet's biggest themes is bigotry. It's always been in your
books, with the Hitlerlike Lord Voldemort and his followers
prejudiced against Muggles (nonmagical people). In book 4,
Hermione tries to liberate the school's worker elves, who've
been indentured servants so long they lack desire for
anything else. Why did you want to explore these themes?
JKR: Because bigotry is probably the thing I detest most.
All forms of intolerance, the whole idea of "that which is
different from me is necessary evil." I really like to explore
the idea that difference is equal and good. But there's another
idea that I like to explore, too. Oppressed groups are not,
generally speaking, people who stand firmly together
no, sadly, they kind of subdivide among themselves and
fight like hell. That's human nature, so that's what you see
here. This world of wizards and witches, they're already
ostracized, and then within themselves, they've formed a
loathsome pecking order.
Interviewer: You don't think this a little heavy for kids?
JKR: These are things that a huge number of children at
that age start to think about. It's really fun to write about
it, but in a very allegorical way.
http://www.accio-quote.org/articles/2000/0800-ew-jensen.
>
> > >>lizzyben04:
> > What's worse, because Slytherin = evil, behavior by Gryffindors
> > towards Slytherins is automatically excused because they're "the bad
> > guys." Draco's ferret bouncing, Montague's vanishing, etc. I find
> > this actually disturbing. Gryffindor apparantly = good, no matter
> > what one of them does.
> > <snip>
>
> Betsy Hp:
> It disturbs me as well. But I wonder if it's maybe *supposed* to be
> disturbing on some level?
Pippin:
Oh, yes, I think so. We see that Draco is just as frightened of
Dementors, Greyback and evil Giants as other wizards are, and
where would he have gotten those fears from, except his
family? We see that Mrs. Black has similar attitudes, so how is
it that Voldemort can make his wizard followers think that such
creatures are their natural allies? And what makes Voldemort's non-
wizards think that Voldemort's wizards would help them?
It seems that the fear of oppression by the massively,
blunderingly, fiercely intolerant wizarding society, whose
values the Trio are unconsciously adopting even as they
consciously struggle to oppose them, is so great that
Voldemort can use it to weld all these traditional enemies
together. I am hopeful that the Trio will come to see this.
Of course it wouldn't do for them to figure it out too
soon, or we wouldn't have seven books :)
Pippin
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