Marietta

[justcarol67]

No: HPFGUIDX 169528

Bess Chilver wrote: 
> I would just like to respectfully point out that there is at least
one other besides the Trio who has experienced Umbridge's methods of
punishment:
<snip>
Lee Jordan had pointed out to Umbridge that by the terms of the new
rule she was not allowed to tell Fred and George off for playing
Exploding Snap in the back of the class.
> 
> 'Exploding Snap's got nothing to do with Defence Against the Dark
Arts, Professor! That's not information relating to your subject!'
> 
> When Harry next saw Lee, the back of his hand was bleeding rather
badly. Harry recommended the essence of Murtlap." (Endquote)
> 
> This episode is sometime before Marietta betrays the DA. It looks to
me as though Umbridge uses this particular form of punishment for any
student and did not simply use it just for Harry. Therefore, I think
it safe to assume that besides Harry and Lee there are probably other
students who have experienced this "detention" - its just that Harry
has not seen their hands so we the readers don't see them either. <snip>
> 
Carol responds:

If Harry didn't see their hands, it seems probable that Marietta
didn't, either. Harry didn't tell anyone except Ron and Hermione about
his punishment, and it isn't common knowledge even among the DA
members. similarly, Marietta would not have been in Lee's DADA class
since she's a Ravenclaw and apparently a sixth-year like Cho (which
explains why she shows no concern about her DADA OWL), not a
Gryffindor seventh-year like Lee. If such punishments were well-known,
I don't think students would be laughing at that particular decree. 

Bess:
> It seems to me that Marietta's "acne" is very much akin to the
punishment Umbridge inflicts. There has been a lot of comment as to
how unfair it would be if Marietta's acne does not clear up. Well,
Harry's "I must not tell lies" are very much a permanent part of him
now. Its clear that the words have been seared into the back of his
hand for all time. I doubt very much if anyone will be able to remove
those!

Carol:
True. But Umbridge, not Marietta, is responsible for them.

Carol, thinking that "Torturer" spelled out in permanent "purpustules"
on Umbridge's face might be an appropriate punishment for *her* but
still sees a similar punishment for Marietta as excessive (not "evil")