JKR's Intent

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No: HPFGUIDX 178772

> Jen: Hee, well, it would make a good fanfic anyway.  Seriously 
> though, I don't get why it's fine to make resonable assumptions 
about 
> something like the Marietta incident in order to get it work the 
way 
> a reader was imagining it, but not to say that Hermione would have 
a 
> career in her lifetime after 7 books worth of character 
development, 
> including information that Hermione thinks about her future 
career.  
> One point of fiction is every single moment isn't on page, it 
> requires imagination to get parts of a story to work at times, all 
> stories, every fiction book I've read.  It's why they're fiction!!  

Alla:

Yes. I do not get why it's fine to make an assumption that JKR writes 
revenge story primarily for example based on her interviews or that 
she did not deliver what she promised us with House unity, BUT when 
she is telling us in the interviews that Hermione indeed had a career 
and Harry did and Ron did, that is suddenly makes other people's 
argument invalid if they reference it.

JKR did not give us Slytherins as part of the elements in the book, 
that was all in one interview, which does not exist, right?

I mean, I always loved the interviews and will freely use them to 
support the argument myself(although more cautiously now), but when 
the other debater builds the case on **some** interviews and suddenly 
disregards others, because the information is not on the pages, just 
does not seem fair to me. 

So, I mean  I have nothing against selective use of the interviews, 
but when I (generic me) am being told that I cannot use interviews to 
support my point, NO, only if the interviews will never be used to 
knock out my point.


Jen:
> Sure, it's selective on here because there's also the point of 
> building a case for one reading over another, and sometimes to 
build 
> a case there's a gap to fill.  The difference seems to be how 
someone 
> would choose to fill that gap, not that some people engage in it 
and 
> others don't.  Basically, my opinion is if the 'default assumption' 
> as Magpie puts it is what is literally on page, then imagination 
gets 
> parked at the door and debate becomes more focused on smaller and 
> smaller portions of 'acceptable' material - and what information is 
> deemed acceptable - rather than engaging with the text on the 
> different levels that fiction promotes.

Alla:

Agreed, but as I said if one never uses the interviews EVER and 
limits ONLY to the words on page, always, always, always, well, sure 
I get this POV, disagree but understand it. But it is frustrating 
when interviews are freely used and when they are used in response, 
it suddenly just does not count.

If you are saying that Hermione having a career is not supported in 
canon, interview or not, ONE thing. But Hermione of the seven books 
based on what she says and does, never ever stroke me as type to sit 
at home, and as was mentioned, she wants to change the world even in 
DH.

So, whether JKR said it or not, to me it is all **there** in 
Hermione's character over seven books, JKR was just voicing it. As 
Zara, it never 
occurred to me when I read the epilogue that Hermione did NOT have a 
career.

Ginny - actually different story. Based on what I saw of her in 
canon, I had not heard of her ambitions to change the world, etc, SO 
yes, I think it can be either way. I could totally see her 
staying home.

But Hermione? Not to me.

 
Jen:
<SNIP>
> Well, no, Hermione's been developed as a certain type like all 
> fictional characters who 'come alive' on the page; it doesn't seem 
> like just *anything* would fill certain spaces, like saying Ron had 
> an affair with Ms. Zabini for instance. ;)  If he'd actually met 
her 
> in the story, had a conversation with her, *something* to indicate 
he 
> was headed that way then sure, I might debate the possibility. 
>
Alla:

Exactly. YES.

Oh, oh like for example second point of speculation. SURE, I can 
consider Hermione blackmailing Skeeter further, why not - seems 
enough supported.