God for Harry, England, and a Sandwich
Goddlefrood
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Tue Nov 6 03:48:52 UTC 2007
No: HPFGUIDX 178858
> bboyminn:
> <SNIP>
> But there is one very critical point you have to accept,
> House Elves REALLY ARE different than Human Slavery.
> <SNIP>
> Alla (snipped):
> BUT I personally lost count how many times Magpie wrote
> precisely what you are asking her to accept.
> YES, from what I read she really DOES accept that House
> Elves are different than Human Slavery, she just not
> comfortable with this all the same.
Goddlefrood:
If it is accepted that House-elves are a different kind of
slave from a human slave, perhaps exactly how they differ
might be worth some expansion. That is, apart from the fact
that house-elves are obviously not human. The house-elf, as
I see it, is little more than a domestic servant, whereas
human slaves were and still are used for a variety of tasks,
just one of which is as domestic servant. Additionally, if,
as seems to be the case, one is equating house-elves with the
slaves typically taken from Africa and transported to North
America to work in various agricultural operations and elsewhere,
then one has to say that there is a big difference. That both
are slaves - a working definition of which would be a being
that works for a master without payment - is not really an
issue.
The issue appears to be whether or not house-elves serving
and, importantly, being servile to, a human master is right.
With the build-up given to SPEW in book 4 there were many
readers, amongst them this one, who were expecting some
further exposition on whether house-elves became more like
the freed Dobby or whether they remained in thrall to their
wizard masters. That Hermione uttered nary a word against
the continued enslavement of the house-eleves for the rest
of the series after GoF, barring the occasional line here
and there, is the issue. That the ideal expressed through
her founding of SPEW, however misguided that attempt to
manumit the house-elves may have been viewed by many, was
effectively abandoned to the point where it was given no
further attention is the problem. Had SPEW not existed I
feel that the controversy would be lesser.
If Ms. Rowling decides one day to say that in the year 2036
the house-elves were freed then, in light of much of her off
-page utterances, I would not believe her. That they were
freed in the year 2036 is a matter of to be recorded history
;-).
Goddlefrood, suggesting that house-elves are more like hobs
than brownies.
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