Slytherin as villains / Ender vs. Harry SPOILERS for Ender's Game

Zara zgirnius at yahoo.com
Tue Nov 13 05:04:55 UTC 2007


No: HPFGUIDX 179042

> > Betsy Hp:
> > Honestly, IMO no one has presented any *evidence* to show that 
> > Voldemort's statement here is false.  

zgirnius:
Yes, they have. Crabbe and Goyle are in Slytherin, and neither of 
them joined Voldemort. Particularly not Crabbe, for the excellent 
reason that he was already dead, having died before ever leaving the 
castle. 

> Magpie:
> Just felt compelled to throw out there that I don't know if this is 
> the minority view since it seems the most obvious to me. The 
> Slytherins all leave and don't defend the castle, as Voldemort 
> wanted. They're doing what he wants, abandoning the school to him. 
> It would never have occurred to me to think Voldemort was lying--
why 
> would he be lying? 

zgirnius:
The sense in which people are saying he lied is that the Slytherins 
did not physically join Voldemort - he was not accompanied by the 
entire horde of young Slytherins, not did they fight for him. And, 
this does seem to be what Voldemort means, because he contrasts the 
other Slytherins' behavior with Draco's. 

In the sense you mean (simply leaving the school ahead of the battle 
to go to relative safety), all the underage students "joined" 
Voldemort, as did over half the of-age Ravenclaws, and a few of-age 
Hufflepuffs. We saw the underage students, and members of various 
houses, including all the Slytherins, leave.

No one is disputing this.







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