[HPforGrownups] JKR, the female and facism (wasRe: WAS Slytherin as villains...

[Kemper]

No: HPFGUIDX 179110

>  > >>Kemper earlier:
>  > I see Lily more as Mother Mary in this scene. It is what I imagine
>  > she would say to her son as he carried his cross. (I'm not trying
>  > to equate a Harry is Jesus thing)
>
>  Betsy Hp:
>  Ooh, ick, really? She was there, wasn't she? In the end? And I
>  don't recall her cheering Jesus on.

Kemper now:
I don't read Lily's statement or gestures (the icky hair flip) as
cheering on Harry to his death.  Rather, I see it (the statement not
the gesture) as emotional support much like Mary's presence is
emotional support to Jesus.  I believe that Lily wants her son to live
hence her sacrifice that Halloween night.  I also believe that Mary
wanted her son to live otherwise why hide/run from Herod?

On a side thought... Maybe Mary is more like Snape, thinking she
brought Jesus in this world to live as Snape  thought he was
protecting Harry so that he, Harry, might live.  Poor Snape, big asp
attacked instead of assumed.


>
>  > >>Kemper earlier:
>
>  > Lily and Mary don't send their son off to die, their sons have
>  > chosen this.
>
>  Betsy Hp:
>  Right. Just as Draco chose to serve Voldemort, making Bellatrix the
>  better mother-figure in that scene. Just as suicide bombers have
>  chosen to become martyrs. So their proud mothers are also good
>  mothers per the series I suppose.

Kemper now:
Draco is different.  Draco and martyr are sent out to kill.  Draco
recognizes his error and wants out.  He realizes his mom is right.
Narcissa as Mother knows best.


>  > >>Kemper earlier:
>
>  > Harry dieing to save others is different than Draco dieing to serve
>  > Voldemort.
>
>  Betsy Hp:
>  Well, yes, there's definitely a better cult of personality in these
>  books. Dying for Dumbledore is much better than dying for Voldemort.
>  <eg>

Kemper Now:
Harry doesn't die /for/ Dumbledore. Harry dies for Hogwarts sans
Slytherin <e-er g>

Kemper