JKR, the female and facism (wasRe: WAS Slytherin as villains...

[montavilla47]

No: HPFGUIDX 179116

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Carol" <justcarol67 at ...> wrote:
>
> Betsy Hp:
> > Yes, and it's one of full attack mode.  When we're supposed to start 
> > thinking of her as a sexual person, we never see her that she's not 
> > attacking (usually physically, sometimes verbally) someone.  Because 
> > I think, for JKR, that's what female sensuality is: an attack.  And 
> > something that weakens men.
> > 
> > JKR needed Harry to have a girl he could make babies with for the 
> > epilogue, so she needed to invent Ginny.  And I do find it 
> > fascinating that she made Ginny as much like Harry as possible 
> > (though far more aggressive, because female).  But then as soon as it 
> > was established that Ginny and Harry would willingly breed, Ginny is 
> > whisked away.  Because in the end, she'd only weaken Harry.  
> > *Especially* if they had sex.  (Though Ginny is hyper-alert to 
> > protecting Harry against other aggressive females.  Hence her making 
> > sure Cho doesn't lead Harry to the Ravenclaw dorms.) 
> 
> Carol responds:
> I agree on two points: that JKR doesn't depict romance well and that
> Ginny is, well, aggressive and not at all the wonderful character JKR
> sees her as being. (Soory, Ginny fans, but the only time I liked her
> is when she stood up to Draco early in CoS. Well, that and telling
> Harry what it's like to be possessed. He was acting like an idiot and
> he should have asked an authority on the subject.) 
> 
> However, it's Ginny, not Harry, who's being protected in DH, not from
> sex but from danger, as Harry makes clear at the end of HBP. And she's
> still being protected in DH by her mother because she's underage. Ron,
> too, is protecting her--not explicitly from sex, although she's the
> one who would get pregnant if they didn't use Contraceptio, or
> whatever the contraceptive spell is, but from a broken heart.

Montavilla47:
I still don't get how breaking up with Ginny was supposed to protect
her.  I guess it would keep her from potentially becoming Tonks with
a big belly and no hubby around, since Harry *had* to go Horcrux 
hunting.

But it seemed ridiculous to me that Harry and Ginny spent weeks 
as the main topic of discussion in the rumor circles of Hogwarts and
then he breaks up with her two minutes before everyone leaves for 
the trains and *no one* mentions to Voldemort that Harry Potter's
girlfriend is running around, just waiting to be used as bait?

Or heck, the Ministry for that matter.  They're trying to catch 
Harry Potter, too, right?  Why not bring in Ginny and force Harry
to come after her?

Montavilla47