Harry as godfather (Was: Sirius Black's role in DH -- why?)

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> > Dana:
> > There is only one problem I see with this interpretation and that 
> is 
> > that Sirius chose to go after Peter AFTER he was denied access to 
> > Harry. Sirius went after Peter when he lost Harry too and 
therefore 
> > he lost everything within a single moment. 
> 
> zgirnius:
> I can't agree on this one. If Sirius had any legal leg to stand on 
> (and the books do not make it clear whether he did, Petunia was 
> Harry's next of kin), his decision to go after Peter meant he lost 
> any chance to fight for Harry.

Alla:

I think they do make it clear though - Sirius was named a guardian, 
NOT Petunia. Unless you do not believe Sirius of course.

And of course while I disagree with you, I only half agree with Dana. 
Sirius tried to fight for Harry with Hagrid, I applaud him for that, 
but I certainly think he should have fought harder.

I sympathise with his decision to go after Peter, but I definitely 
think he should have not hesitated to use any force on Hagrid, take 
Harry and leave with him.

 
Zara:
> Heck, he should have *expected* Dumbledore not to want Harry in his 
> power. By his own brilliant plan, Sirius was believed to be the 
> Potters' Secret Keeper. Which meant that their deaths pointed the 
> finger at him as a traitor and Death Eater. The implications of 
this 
> seemed to have escaped Hagrid, simple, kind soul that he is, or 
maybe 
> he did not even know who the SK was. Could anyone reasonably 
suppose 
> Dumbledore had missed this?

Alla:

Could anybody reasonably assume that Dumbledore wanted Harry to be 
controlled by himself? Could anybody reasonably assume that 
Dumbledore would just believe that one of the order members guilty 
without talking to this order member **once**?

Could anybody think that Dumbledore may be bitter that Potters 
refused his offer to be a secret keeper and just make an assumption 
that Sirius is guilty, which turned out to be wrong?

I remember Pippin saying that she realised that Dumbledore's hat may 
not be as white as his beard when he kicked Barty.

I realised it, when I realised that Dumbledore did not hesitate to go 
against young Potters' wills and take their son away from his 
guardian.

No, I never imagined that Dumbledore would be revealed as 
manipulative to the degree he is revealed in DH, but I sure thought 
his behaviour towards Sirius and Harry was despicable.



Zgirnius:
> Sirius did not know about the blood protection when he made his 
> choice, he knew only that Hagrid would not turn Harry over to him, 
> because Dumbledore had other plans. He should have gone to 
Dumbledore 
> and explained the Secret Keeper fiasco.

Alla:

Sure, he should have. Just as Dumbledore should have been more 
willing to check out the facts before playing with people's lifes, 
IMO.

Zgirnius: 
> Quite possibly, Dumbledore would still have wanted to do the blood 
> protection thing instead of letting Sirius care for Harry.

Alla:

Precisely.

Zgirnius:
 If Sirius 
> is half the dedicated, salf-sacrificing godfather his fans suppose, 
> he might even have agreed to the plan as safer for Harry. 
Visitation, 
> presents, and correspondence by him with his godson would still 
have 
> been an option, I would think.

Alla:

Um, yes, sure. Only for some reason I really doubt Sirius would have 
agreed to his godson being in Petunia's care, knowing how Lily felt 
about her sister dear.

Zgirnius:
> Or, if he had a legal leg to stand on 
> and chose to in spite of the blood protection, once his name was 
> cleared, he could exercise his legal rights.

Alla:

He **had** a legal leg to stand on, only for some reason I really 
doubt that had it come to legal proceedings Wisengamot would have 
ruled for him.

Regardless, you have no argument from he that Sirius should have 
fought harder for Harry that night.

But I have no doubt that Dumbledore would not have stopped of 
anything to make sure Harry goes to Petunia.

Am I in doubt that he may even frame Sirius to make sure he is out of 
the way?

I would have laughed if somebody told me that before DH, but now I 
think that he may have, Dumbledore I mean. Speculation obviously.

JMO,

Alla