Which characters knew DD was Gay?

[Shaunette Reid]

No: HPFGUIDX 179222

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Hagrid" <aussie_lol at ...> wrote:
[snip]
> So which characters did know Albus Dumbledore was gay?
> These ones knew for sure
> - Grindelwald (the only one we know for sure)


Shaunette again:
Actually, do we know for sure? Yes, Dumbledore was in love with GW and
it was tragic for him, but I can't remember JKR saying they were
lovers. Granted, it's likely that they were, but because so little is
said about that aspect of their relationship, I think things are left
entirely to the imagination. It is possible, for example, that GW did
not return the feeling beyond friendship, mutual respect/admiration
and common dreams/goals (as I've said before, I' m a sucker for tragic
love stories and have no problem with the idea that DD & GW were
probably lovers...I just don't jump to the conclusion that if one's
best friend is gay, one must also be gay).

> These ones probably knew ...
> - Aberforth Dumbledore (Probably)
>
> These ones may have known, but we aren't sure ...
> - *Elphias Doge (who admired Albus and hid facts from his obituary)
> - *Rufus Scrimgeour (as head of Aurors [wizard FBI] and new Ministr
> of Magic, he was able to hear secrets)

Shaunette:
hahaha I can't picture Scrimgeour nosing around for gossip on such a
petty level. Hasn't he got more important things to worry about than
who a relatively young Dumbledore wants to sleep with?


> - Ariana Dumbledore (Possibly)
> - Mrs Kendra Dumbledore (Muggle born in an era when homosexuals were
> not gay)

Shaunette:
Er...what? What were they, then? Straight? Seriously, I don't get it.


> - Mr Percival Dumbledore (Albus didn't meet Grindelwald until after
> his father was in Azkaban, but Albus may have displayed gay
> tendancies before)
> - *Bathilda Bagshot (neighbour that told Lily and James some
> unbelieveable things about Albus)

Shaunette:
Do you mean "being gay" is unbelievable?
And that Lily and James would care in the slightest?

> - *Rita Skeeter (after pumping Bathilda for information)

Shaunette:
I CAN picture Rita nosing around for gossip on such a petty level, oh
yes. But then, why not write about it (other than JKR not wanting to
include it in her books)?

> - Nearly-Headless Nick or other Hogwarts ghosts

Shaunette:
LOL why would the ghosts care?

> How the story takes on a new light if these knew ...
> - The muggle boys that attacked Ariana (were they picking on the
> gay's little sister?)

Shaunette:
An interesting idea. Could be, or it could just be cruelty over her
strange magic.
Would definitely add to DD's tragedy though, wouldn't it? Could even
explain some of DD's need to keep secrets, if indeed his sexual
orientation was a "secret" and not simply something that didn't matter
at all (I still suspect the latter). I'm not sure the WW attitudes
toward homosexuality are the same as the muggle world's.  Race, as in
ethnicity/colour doesn't matter, whereas blood purity & species (as in
magical background etc.) matter. Even gender issues are less weighty
than the blood purity thing (Hermione's amazing because she's a
muggleborn, not because she's "just a girl", for example). I am inclined
to think the WW is less obessessed with sexual orientation than
muggledom (sorry, haven't time to explain exactly why I think this,
though my comparison to race above is a clue), and that DD's squib-like
sister would be a bigger deal than who he thinks is hot.

> - *Did Lily and James hear?

Shaunette:
Again, if they did hear, why would it matter to them or to the story?

-Shaunette