Harry as godfather (Was: Sirius Black's role in DH -- why?)
Carol
justcarol67 at yahoo.com
Wed Nov 21 16:58:31 UTC 2007
No: HPFGUIDX 179268
Carol earlier:
> > That's twice you've stated that I made this claim. However, as you
> > didn't actually quote me, I had to go back to see what I actually
> > said. To quote my own post: <entire post snipped>
> >
> > Carol, hoping that you understand my argument more clearly now and
> > trying once again to bow out of this thread
> <huge snip>
>
> Dana:
> This was not the post I initially applied to and secondly I did
quote you in my initial reply, which let to the responses of several
people who thus should also have been aware of the part I quoted.
<snip>
>
> And the piece I specifically responded to is this:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/179192
>
> Carol responds:
> > > Recklessness (as, surely, even his most devoted fans agree), is
Sirius Black's defining characteristic. Not only did his arrest after
his reckless decision to go after Pettigrew himself cost the child
Harry a relationship with his godfather from infancy to age thirteen.
> <snip>
>
> Dana:
> You specifically said here that it was due to Sirius' reckless
> decision to go after Peter that it cost Harry his connection to his
> Godfather and that wasn't the case as I have mentioned now several
> times.
> I was not debating the legality of his guardianship as a Godfather,
> nor was I debating the idea that DD should hand over Harry to a
> suspected traitor without checking things out first. <snip>
>
Carol responds:
My apologies. With Yahoo's current set-up, it's hard to follow a
thread back to a particular post and I seem to have traced it to the
wrong one. However, my point is that I never said that Sirius Black's
reckless behavior in going after Pettigrew cost him Harry's
*guardianship.* That hypothetical guardianship has never been
established and the term "guardian" is used in relation to Black only
once, IIRC. A godfather is not a guardian and has no legal rights.
What I said is that his reckless behavior in going after PP cost him
*a relationship with Harry.* And I still firmly believe that.
Carol, whose arguments can be found upthread by anyone so inclined
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