violence in the books

[montavilla47]

No: HPFGUIDX 179283

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "allies426" <AllieS426 at ...> wrote:
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> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "montavilla47" 
> <montavilla47@> wrote:
> 
> > There's also the other veiled sexual violence events in the book--
> > a surprisingly large number, really, starting with Ginny's
> > possession by Tom, the sexually-charged rebirth of Voldemort, 
> > the sexually-tinged humiliation of SWM, the possible rape of 
> > Dolores Umbridge by the centaurs, and the veiled rape
> > threats towards Hermione by Fenrir Greyback.
> > 
> > Am I missing any?
> 
> Allie:
> 
> Can you please elaborate on what you mean by Ginny's possession by 
> Tom.  I never read anything sexual in that.  He used her closeness 
> with the diary to possess her, but I did not get the impression that 
> there was anything sexual about or that it even mattered that Ginny 
> was a girl.  The same thing could have happened if say, Colin 
> Creevey were writing in the diary.  (And yes sexual violence can be 
> same sex I get that.)

Montavilla47:
I've heard of that possession described as mind-rape, and also as...
not exactly a metaphor, but going to edge of acceptable in terms
of what's allowable in a children's book in terms of violation of a 
child by a... well, a memory of an older teenager.

That's what I was referring to.  But if you don't see it, you don't.  It 
seems to me that a lot of these images... impressions... are written
in a way that you aren't necessarily going to pick it up.

Or, if you do, you end wondering if it's just your own imagination.