Dumbledore's authority WAS: Re: Fees for Harry

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No: HPFGUIDX 179404

> bboyminn:
> 
> Yes, precisely, they trusted Dumbledore, he was their accepted
> and respected leader, so they let him lead, and they followed.
> That is how these things work. Dumbledore may not have
> ultimately been great, but he was the best they had, and he
> was the man with the plan. A plan that, by the way, ultimately
> worked.

Alla:

I read your previous argument as if the fact that the members of the 
Order followed Dumbledore somehow justifies his manipulations or 
makes htem less manipulations. Have I misread you? If I did I am 
sorry, if I did not, then Members following him does not make his 
manipulations to be less horrible to me.




bboyminn: 
> As to what Dumbledore is responsible for, I'm not quite sure.
> Well, I know what he is accused of, but war is never clean.
> To fight war, even wars that haven't started yet, people
> have to get their hands dirty. Yes, Dumbledore had dirt on
> his hands. He had to make dark and terrible decision. But
> again those decisions ultimately worked out and paid off.
> So where's the problem?


Alla:

It is that ends and means problem.  NO, IMO he did not HAVE to make 
dark and terrible decisions and for that I hold him responsible. It 
is the ones he CHOSE to make IMO. They worked more or less with 
innocents hurting and dying along the way.

Good point Dana (I think???) brought up. Moody owes his death to 
Dumbledore before he owns his death to DE, no?

Yes, DE pulled the trigger so to speak, but Dumbledore and nobody 
else told Snape to make Voldemort aware of their plans.

I find this disgusting and yes, I know Moody was a soldier who knew 
that he can die at any time. I highly doubt that he wanted to die 
betrayed by the man he hold in such respect. Dumbledore I mean.

Hmmmm, how about **keeping a secret** how Harry would be transported 
eh?

Moody's death was as far as I bam concerned totally unnecessary and 
just another victim of Dumbledore stupid strategy.

Why, why DE needed to know that? Such idiocy as far as I am 
concerned.

Never mind poor Hedwig.

So, yes DD's plans worked. It is the means I question.

JMO,

Alla