[HPforGrownups] Re: Why down on all the characters?/ Dumbledore

k12listmomma k12listmomma at comcast.net
Wed Nov 28 15:22:26 UTC 2007


No: HPFGUIDX 179428

> a_svirn:
<SNIP>
> No, it wasn't. On the contrary, the determined iconoclasm of DH
> proved to be a sleight of hand in the end. Dumbledore got his last
> word in the Kings Cross chapter and explained everything to Harry's
> satisfaction. And if Harry is satisfied - to the point of naming
his
> son after Dumbledore - by the end of the last book, then,
apparently,
> so should we. Only I wasn't.
>

Alla:
See above I guess. I do not believe Harry was satisfied, but forgave
DD. IMO.

Shelley:
For me, Harry's forgiveness and understanding of Dumbledore was completely 
satisfying- I never expected Harry to hold a grudge against Dumbledore, no 
matter how badly Dumbledore might have sinned or manipulated the 
circumstances. Harry would forgive Dumbledore as one forgives a friend, 
because they were friends. He would have forgiven Dumbledore no matter what, 
because at the time in his life when he had no one, Dumbledore was the one 
adult who stepped up and took some interest in Harry. Dumbledore was the 
closest Harry had to a mentor or parent, and his forgiveness of him was 
totally predictable.

No, what I have a hard time believing is the naming of the child after 
Snape. That is the much bigger leap of faith, imho, than Harry forgiving 
Dumbledore. Snape, in contrast to Dumbledore, is always pictured as working 
against Harry right from the start, and unlike Dumbledore's actions that 
seem to have a purpose that Harry finally comes to understand, Snape's 
meanness and cruelty to Harry doesn't have a justification in the end. Nor 
do we see Harry reconciling in his mind anything about Snape, the way he 
wrestles with questioning Dumbledore, so that the forgiveness is a well 
thought out process. This thought that "well, I was in love with your 
mother" still sounds so sick and perverted to me, even after several months 
of stewing on it, still doesn't explain why Snape was such an ass to Harry 
for all those years. So for me, the forgiveness of Snape the point of naming 
a child after him just comes off as unrealistic and wholly unbelievable. An 
ass is an ass, and even if Harry understood that Snape all along was a spy 
at Dumbledore's request, and acting like that ass was one way to keep his 
cover, that still does not explain, in one bit, why you would name your 
child after that ass. The leap of logic here is sudden deep "affection" for 
Snape after Harry hates him for so long.








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