Moody's death (was: Dumbledore's authority WAS: Re: Fees for Harry)

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No: HPFGUIDX 179438

Pippin:
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> In any case, the books are entertainment, not a manual on how to 
> conduct a war. I thought it was a clever way to re-introduce a 
number of
> characters, establish that they would (mostly) risk their lives for 
Harry 
> and start things off in a suitably bangy fashion.


Alla:

Now with this I agree absolutely. But it all comes down for me to the 
how I view plot holes again. I have no problem, or at least not much 
to just enjoy what JKR did simply because she chose to do it certain 
way.

At the same time though, if I were to enjoy the contrived 
development, I have to have **something** to enjoy about it.

Contrary to GoF for example, where I found Harry participating in  
TWT to be quite contrived but found plenty of things to enjoy in the 
tournament and Harry suffering, etc, here, well I enjoyed touches of 
humor very very much.

I enjoyed their encounter with DE, yes, but did I find this plan to 
be clever as in characters coming up with clever things?

Um, no, not at all. In fact I think Dumbledore's coldness shined 
through here indeed. 


I am trying to put into words as to what indeed changed in my view of 
Dumbledore after book 7. As I mentioned several times before I 
certainly thought he was capable and did horrible things before this 
book, but I still thought of him as good man all together.

But I could not put my finger on what indeed changed majorly for me 
and here I realised. I now firmly believe that every life for 
Dumbledore is expendable indeed in order to achieve his plan for the 
greater good.

The funny thing is that I have no problems believing that Dumbledore 
wants the peace and Voldemort free WW and of course I do not consider 
him to be worse than Voldemort, but at the same time can I truly 
respect someone who has no problem sacrificing the lives of his 
soldiers on the way to achieve it? NO, I really cannot. Again, I can 
forgive him and JKR saved him from complete destruction in my 
imagination by his remorse and his love for Harry, but no, there is 
no respect for this character in my mind.


Now, do I agree that this is the philosophy of the Order? Oh sure I 
do.  But heck that was the major difference I think in my view of 
Dumbledore before and now.

I thought he was trying really hard to save the lives of his 
soldiers, to do everything possible to make sure they survive that 
fight. RIGHT. Instead he pretty much IMO gives them all as pigs for 
slaughters for DE to make sure Snape is even more in favor of 
Voldemort? As if he was not enough.

But hey, why did I delude myself of Dumbledore's general character, I 
do not really know. I mean in HBP he pretty much let Malfoy run amock 
in the school and two almost deaths did not stop him from continuing.

And hate Snape as I am, I sure give him credit here for saving Lupin. 
OMG. Saving Lupin of all people.

I do not see Harry adopting Dumbledore's philosophy all that much 
though when he is back. He shields everybody everybody everybody.

I do not know, to me it was clear that Harry forgives Dumbledore, not 
blindly follows him, even if he can sympathise with DD again.

JMO,

Alla